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    Israel accused of selling US secrets to China

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...a-1510406.html

    PATRICK COCKBURN in Washington

    ISRAEL has sold at least dollars 2bn ( pounds 1.3bn) to dollars 3bn of hi-tech military equipment to China, seriously undermining US efforts to limit the sale of advanced weapons to the Chinese. A Senate report due out later this week says the Israeli exports include military technology developed by the US, and which Washington expressly forbids from being exported to China.

    Officials accompanying Israel's Prime Minister, Yitzhak Rabin, on a visit to China confirmed that Israel had done deals but would not elaborate. The CIA told the committee the Chinese were seeking from Israel technologies that Western firms were unwilling to provide.

    Those sold by Israel are said by specialists to include technology for the Python - the Israeli version of the US Sparrow air-to-air missile - and technology developed for the US-financed Lavi jet, which the Israelis cancelled some years ago.

    The US is also concerned that Israel may have passed on technology for the Arrow anti-missile missile, a joint US-Israel project, which is based on the Patriot missile used in the Gulf war.

    The Israeli Defence Ministry director-general, David Ivri, accompanying Mr Rabin in China, said in response to the Senate report: 'There are security relations (between Israel and China) but I cannot relate either to numbers or the substance of deals themselves.' Morton Miller, a former state department analyst, said the real figure for sale of Israeli arms to China was between dollars 8bn and dollars 10bn.

    James Woolsey, the director of the CIA, told the Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs: 'Peking probably hopes to tap Israeli expertise for co-operative development of military technologies - such as advanced tank power plants and airborne radar systems - that the Chinese would have difficulty in producing on their own.' He said the Chinese wanted to interest the Israelis in using Chinese facilities for launching satellites.

    China and Israel have had formal ties only since January 1992 but secret military deals go back much further. They include the upgrading of the Chinese tank force and avionics. Chinese Eastwind ballistic missiles sold to Saudi Arabia against Israeli objections were improved by Israeli technicians.

    The CIA says Israeli defence firms are opening offices in Peking and other Chinese cities to promote their products.
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    What a surprise. Abolish the state of Israel and return the land back to it's rightful owner, Palestine.

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    Was that part of God's plan, too?
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    easy spin... the cia is antisemetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Chaney View Post
    What a surprise. Abolish the state of Israel and return the land back to it's rightful owner, Palestine.
    Who's going to do that? You and what army?

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    Article dated 1993.
    "Your mother's dead, before long I'll be dead, and you...and your brother and your sister and all of her children, all of us dead, all of us..rotting in the ground. It's the family name that lives on. It's all that lives on. Not your personal glory, not your honor, but family." - Tywin Lannister


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowlesy View Post
    Article dated 1993.
    Oops, how did they sneek that into my newsfeed!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowlesy View Post
    Article dated 1993.
    even worse.

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    lol I hate it when this happens. You post something then realize 'oops' this was last year. Much worse, 1993 :P

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    Why is Israel our ally again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowlesy View Post
    Article dated 1993.
    That doesn't make it any less relevant. If they were doing it in 1993 what makes you think they aren't still doing it in 2013?

    Is there a statute of limitations on hurting the security of the USA? I think not!
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    greatest ally
    A society that places equality before freedom with get neither; A society that places freedom before equality will yield high degrees of both

    Make a move and plead the 5th because you can't plead the 1st

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    10 years since article was published.. wonder how much they made now.

    Honestly, I think that land is more trouble than its worth and is causing so much grief and destruction in the world.

    It should be returned to nature and be neutral. =s..

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    Hey, it's a free market, yay capitalism!



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    I trust this surprises nobody. While I have nothing against Israel - I am neutral on their existence - they have stabbed us in the back more than once. Back ca. 1984 they were caught red handed spying on us, yet we did nothing. There was outrage and no action.

    Back about 9 or 10 years ago the company AMDOCS re-did the telecom systems in the White House. I have worked with that company - Israeli company that is - and it was speculated that they'd installed every spy-worthy device on the planet into that system so they could monitor high-level conversations. Given my experience with AMDOCS the charge is extremely plausible and even likely true.

    This nation is committing suicide by various means. One of those is this slavish devotion to the state of Israel as they continue to sell our asses up the river to those such as the Chinese. The day will soon arrive where we will be evenly matched by the commies from over yonder. Then we should be in for some interesting fun.

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    NOT to tangent off too much, but a lot of this goes back to the 1990s (China 'Most Favored Nation, Loral Aerospace leaking TOP SECRET info, Bill Clinton signing U.S. away)

    Oh those 1990s when Washington REALLY sold U.S. OUT. They are creating Global WAR to fund their agenda. Military Industrial Complex executive have huge donations to the CFR, then leak our technologies to foreign countries, then set the propaganda of ARMS RACE/IN-SECURITY/FEAR and force Washington DC policies for more defense spending, new technology development, and continuation of old/new wars. The perpetual cycle...

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    investigation into the unauthorized transfer of advanced missile-guidance technology(ICBM guide for Nuke MIRVs) to China, Loral Space & Communications Corp. requested and received Clinton administration approval to sell communications satellites to Beijing in 1996, a secret National Security Council memo

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    Loral's Aerospace chairman Bernard Schwartz
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    Loral Chairman Bernard Schwartz donated more than $1 million to the Democratic National Committee, according to Federal Election Commission records, and has recently made contributions to Hillary Clinton's campaign for the U.S. Senate in New York. The $1 million contribution was the single largest individual donation to the DNC that year.
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    Makes you wonder if that congressman who was shot down in that flight over South Korea was right the whole time.



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