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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Many didn't even have phones- and if you did, you probably shared the line with others. Can't find numbers for 1933 but in 1920 only one third of homes had one. http://www.maineahead.com/back-then-3/
    We had party lines well into the Seventies as I recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Many didn't even have phones- and if you did, you probably shared the line with others. Can't find numbers for 1933 but in 1920 only one third of homes had one. http://www.maineahead.com/back-then-3/
    I never used party lines, but I remember rotary dial phones and prefix's that started with letters. Such as ma2 1784.

    And long distance calls were something only done under duress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    A few numbers to compare. In 1933 (the worst year of the Great Depression in terms of unemployment), the total population was 95.95 million and the workforce was measured at 51.84 million (a 54 percent particiaption rate vs 63.6% today so workforce participation was lower http://ycharts.com/indicators/labor_...icipation_rate and the total considered unemployed was 12.83 million or 24.75% of the workforce.
    http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1528.html

    That converts to 13.4% of the total population unemployed.

    Compare to today's total of 12.2 milllion total unemployed people today http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm (which is about the same total unemployed in 1933) out of a much bigger population of 311 million or 3.9% of the total population.

    Consider also that in 1933 there was likely only one person in a family who would have worked. Them losing their job had a much bigger impact on the family than today where there are often multiple wage earners so one losing their job still hurts- but not as much. Then add in all the unemployment assistance available today vs none then and it is much easier to survive without a job than it was in 1933.

    Things were much worse in 1933.
    I think the people are in much worse position now than then. Most of the country was rural then and people had the abilities and skills to feed themselves.Peoples costs were lower .No auto ins , no health ins , no phone bill.Most homes could be heated without electric if needed.

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    Ask your grandparents if it was better then. Poor people today would be considered pretty well off compared to 1933. Cars, TVs, phones, bigger houses.

    By 1933, US industrial production had fallen by 46% from its pre- depression levels. The dustbowl had wiped out crops. You didn't get unemployment insurance payments. Instead there were soup kitchens and bread lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think the people are in much worse position now than then. Most of the country was rural then and people had the abilities and skills to feed themselves.Peoples costs were lower .No auto ins , no health ins , no phone bill.Most homes could be heated without electric if needed.
    C'mon, you're just baiting the thread, right?
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    I think people should do what they can for themselves to prepare for no boom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think people should do what they can for themselves to prepare for no boom.
    No argument there, we could be in for some very tough times.
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    I would not call what we are currently experiencing a boom but the bust has ended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I would not call what we are currently experiencing a boom but the bust has ended.
    That remains to be seen, things have picked up but for how long?
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    The govt is in charge of taking everyones cash now for soup and bread for the rest.Not enough though , they blow even more than that.That is a system doomed to fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Ask your grandparents if it was better then. Poor people today would be considered pretty well off compared to 1933. Cars, TVs, phones, bigger houses.

    By 1933, US industrial production had fallen by 46% from its pre- depression levels. The dustbowl had wiped out crops. You didn't get unemployment insurance payments. Instead there were soup kitchens and bread lines.
    My Grandparents are all gone Zip.My one Grandfather would still have been living the same as he would have been in the 40 's.He was a farmer.The property tax the Mrs and I pay ea yr now on our home , a house I have sold on contract ( previous rental ), 14.2 acres of the old family farm , a stand of timber in an adjoining County are more than he pd for his entire farm shortly after 1900.He bought coffee , sugar.Grew , made or raised everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I would not call what we are currently experiencing a boom but the bust has ended.
    I am not sure of what is to come.Yes , this is not a boom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    My Grandparents are all gone Zip.My one Grandfather would still have been living the same as he would have been in the 40 's.He was a farmer.The property tax the Mrs and I pay ea yr now on our home , a house I have sold on contract ( previous rental ), 14.2 acres of the old family farm , a stand of timber in an adjoining County are more than he pd for his entire farm shortly after 1900.He bought coffee , sugar.Grew , made or raised everything else.
    Geographically some weathered the depression much better than others for sure. Not everyone became destitute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    My Grandparents are all gone Zip.My one Grandfather would still have been living the same as he would have been in the 40 's.He was a farmer.The property tax the Mrs and I pay ea yr now on our home , a house I have sold on contract ( previous rental ), 14.2 acres of the old family farm , a stand of timber in an adjoining County are more than he pd for his entire farm shortly after 1900.He bought coffee , sugar.Grew , made or raised everything else.
    Sorry to hear. I still have one left- in her 90's and my other ones were in their 90's when they passed. They had a small farm in rural Pennsylvania. They had little for themselves but would try to help others when they could. People were always coming by trying to see if any work was available. You don't see that happening to day- people roaming the countryside looking for whatever they can find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Rogue View Post
    We had party lines well into the Seventies as I recall.
    Yes we did. When I was a kid, we moved to rural Missouri and lived with my grandma. She had a party-line phone. This was the mid-to-late 1970s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Yes we did. When I was a kid, we moved to rural Missouri and lived with my grandma. She had a party-line phone. This was the mid-to-late 1970s.
    I think my folks had one when I was really young, like before I was six (pre 1964). But I don't really remember it.
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