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    1. The complete right of secession at every level
    2. Specific prohibition on government involvement in education at any level
    3. Ten years of banishment for any representative who supports any bill that exceeds the enumerated powers or violates any of the specific prohibitions, to be determined by a council chosen by the States.
    4. Specific prohibition on legal tender laws or laws inhibiting use of alternate currency
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    A lot of good stuff here! keep it coming guys1


    Quote Originally Posted by Icymudpuppy View Post

    New Amendment: All federal elected officials shall be paid the average hourly rate of their district constituency. They will clock in for official duties such as managing their office, attendance in committee, attendance on floor, and meetings with diplomats and constituents. Campaigning must be done on their own time. Travel to and from places of work including overseas diplomatic trips is not paid, but transport expenses are reimbursable with receipt. All federal bureaucrats and office staff will be paid no more than 90% of the average hourly rate of their immediate superiors; Thus an agency head will receive 90% of the average hourly pay of the elected members of his or her overseeing committee.

    (this amendment should seriously cut down on greedy people looking to join government service.)
    I like this idea, i would also address it further in Article 1 by imposing term limits and also would take a look at the 1 representative for every 30,000 people. Somehow the congress froze their number at 435 which comes out to 1 in 700,000 representation. in this day and age i would not go for the 1:30,000 ratio but i feel that should be addressed with more representation (maybe cap it at 1,773 members) as long as their pay and term limits are in place.

    I feel that the supreme court is something we should change the way it is selected, i am just having a hard time coming up with an alternative on my own. Obviously i would like to return the Senate to being elected by the state assembly's who would in turn confirm the presidents supreme court appointees. I doubt we will ever see the election of the senate returned to the original intent because everyday people just don't understand how this is supposed to work and will cry that we are stealing their "democracy". But perhaps we just take that power away from the senate and give it directly to each states assembly to select the supreme court would be a better option?
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    Add an amendment about the separation of business and state.

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of business, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Add an amendment about the separation of business and state.

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of business, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
    That's essentially Ayn Rand's galt amendment
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    Re-write project ideas:

    This is an interesting exercise to clarify and put some teeth in the
    contractual terms and consequences of exceeding the constitutional framework
    for the federal government:

    Make it clear the amendments are to limit the size, power and reach of the
    federal government and its employees and/or sub-contractors.

    Add an automatic re-boot and/or simple voting procedure to roll back any/all
    future federal powers that exceed this constitution. e.g., congress was
    supposed to have exclusive lawmaking power, but POTUS and numerous ABCD fed
    agencies regulate/rule however they wish without limits. Today they can come
    into your home and kill you if you posses the wrong kind of flower or if you
    happen to have picked up a feather from the ground that once belonged to the
    wrong kind of bird, etc.

    Taxes to run the beast need to be tiny and expressly limited, maybe 5% of a
    citizen’s annual income (15% if the person works for the government) as a suggested
    minimum contribution.

    Money must not be fiat or counterfeit(able) by people, computers or governments.
    Would you like to contribute a dollar to the: Re-election campaign fund? Hillary's new
    glasses? Obama's family vacation? Hollow point ammo for the department of...
    (wait, they no longer exist)?
    Maybe a contribution form should be made available:
    Yes, I want more fedgov! Here’s my contribution of $_________________________
    to be used for* (leave blank for the general fund, fill in the blank, attach
    additional pages if desired.)
    ______EXAMPLE________Oilpainting portrait of Pres Obama_______________
    *WARNING: Fedgov cannot overreach its constitutional limits.
    You may be held responsible if this contribution/directive results
    in the initiation of force or fraud upon others.

    Incorporate the "initiation of force or fraud" and Victim restitution
    and victimless crime concepts. Spell out the jury has supreme power in court
    trials to determine the outcome and punishment.

    Clarify many of the amendments that are being trashed today: no law may restrict
    citizen's possession or use of "Arms" i.e., guns, bombs, tanks, laser
    death ray, etc, that include whatever power and force necessary to prevent,
    resist, repel or overthrow OUR OWN or any government intrusion into the lives
    of citizens that oversteps its enumerated constitutional power i.e., tyranny
    and/or gun grabber psychopaths in elected office, etc.

    The 9th and 10th need to be spelled out for idiots. Maybe
    listing a few bad examples would be helpful. (Insert acronym list of all
    federal agencies here). Repeat 9th and 10th amendments again, and note:
    These are only a few examples of things not to allow the fedgov to attempt, undoubtedly,
    there are countless others. CLARIFY the US Constitution and these Amendments
    are the ONLY areas the people give some of their individual rights and powers up
    to the fedgov. The rights that the states and the people retain are nearly infinite.

    Of the first 10 original amendments, only the 3rd is left pretty much intact.
    The rest need some serious re-write clarifications or sumptin'.

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    Include nullification. Whenever a majority of the state legislatures declare an act void, it shall be repealed throughout the United States as if it had never been passed by the Congress and signed by the President.
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    Interesting. I have been working on something similar to this, although as a bill proposal; it is still mostly in first-draft form:

    Lucid Accountability and Responsible Restraint on Union Powers Act (LARRUP ACT)
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    I'd eliminate it and go back to the Articles of Confederation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confederate View Post
    I'd eliminate it and go back to the Articles of Confederation.
    The Articles didn't work the first time around, and there's no indication they'd work now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    The Articles didn't work the first time around, and there's no indication they'd work now.
    Didn't work for who? The Federalists who wanted a centralized government or those who believed that the nation was founded by sovereign states?

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