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    Quote Originally Posted by Confederate View Post
    Interesting that you put "new economic world order" when the encyclical never uses that phrase. The phrase "world order" doesn't even appear a single time. And you might want to find the definition of common good used in the encyclical before you try to dishonestly bring in the socialist definition where something is taken from those who have and given to those who don't. The encyclical is taking about charity and our Christian duty to our neighbour.

    Do I agree with the Pope on many of his personal opinions? Absolutely not. Do I believe he is perfect? Of course not. Does he sin? Yes. Does he make mistakes? Many, as we all do.
    From the encyclical itself.

    In order not to produce a dangerous universal power of a tyrannical nature, the governance of globalization must be marked by subsidiarity, articulated into several layers and involving different levels that can work together. Globalization certainly requires authority, insofar as it poses the problem of a global common good that needs to be pursued. This authority, however, must be organized in a subsidiary and stratified way[138], if it is not to infringe upon freedom and if it is to yield effective results in practice.

    Sure he doesn't use the term "New World Order" but he definitely gives a description of it and endorses a "kindler gentler" version.

    Edit: More from the same encyclical.

    Economic activity cannot solve all social problems through the simple application of commercial logic. This needs to be directed towards the pursuit of the common good, for which the political community in particular must also take responsibility. Therefore, it must be borne in mind that grave imbalances are produced when economic action, conceived merely as an engine for wealth creation, is detached from political action, conceived as a means for pursuing justice through redistribution.

    Calling for "justice through redistribution" is statist.
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    Isn't mises.org like at least 50% Roman Catholic?
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    A small nuke would take care of Vatican City and a far cleaner world would be the result. /sarcasm
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    i dont think we shoudl worry about the government taking away all of our guns...

    government does a bad job "banning" things and keeping things out/in.

    bad job on war on drugs
    bad job on alcohol prohibition
    bad job on keeping borders secure

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    drop yours...
    and we'll drop ours
    I think that's the wrong message to send to Catholic Priests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smart3 View Post
    I think that's the wrong message to send to Catholic Priests.
    I was gonna say "Molon Labe", but maybe the same problem (?)
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    I'm usually a little hesitant at the concept of showing glee when old institutions are smashed, (marriage, common decency, manners, decorum and so on).

    But in this case, I'll not be shedding any tears when this corrupt institution has died out.

    Maybe Horace Mann was right after all...

    Well, at any rate, enough talk.

    Come and take them...

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    "Max Boot (born September 12, 1969) is an American author, consultant, editorialist, lecturer, and military historian.[1] He has been a prominent advocate for American power."

    Max Boot applauds Obama's vision of America as an "ANCHOR" wherever in the world is "necessary" to secure, well, Obama's vision.

    On "Washington Today", he emphasized "our" need to not forget our "new" unconventional warfare tactics...'cuz, I quote, "THE BUSINESS OF INSURGENCY" ain't going away. (Perhaps 'cuz we are busy enjoining "our" vision on The Unwilling?)

    In emphasizing that "THE BUSINESS OF INSURGENCY" continues post-Afghanistan, he spared no fear-mongering in saying that every America Hater around the world has...again, I quote..."EASY ACCESS" to AK-47's.

    Plethora of "assault" weapons around the globe + Chronic Terrorist Threat = CAUSE FOR AMERICANS TO HAVE COMPARABLE WEAPONRY.

    It is Lunacy OR IT IS TREASON to disarm Americans of the same guns that are (sold to and) wielded by their Enemies. Speaking of, how much of the arms we sell to non-combatant Saudi Arabia are funneled to enemy combatants?

    If Americans DON'T need the same weapons that sworn enemies with a penchant for Terrorism & Jihad have, then we can begin our desperately needed spending cuts by aggressively slashing the mammoth DHS budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapseats View Post
    "Max Boot (born September 12, 1969) is an American author, consultant, editorialist, lecturer, and military historian.[1]
    Never heard of his sorry ass, and at least I have actually been in the military.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    .....and the criminals.
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