Confiscate all 300 million guns - National Catholic Reporter

[Acala]

The Catholic Church is liberal. Is this news to you people?

I think it would be more correct to say that the Catholic Church is statist, and has been for most of its long history.

[seraphson]

Oh look, another Humanitarian with a Guillotine.

[Maximus]

The National Catholic Reporter is part of the Church's radical Liberal wing. Ignore them, or at least don't associate everything they write as being "Catholic".

You'll find opinions all over the map within the Church in regards to guns, there is no "official" position.

[Confederate]

The National Catholic Reporter is part of the Church's radical Liberal wing. Ignore them, or at least don't associate everything they write as being "Catholic".

You'll find opinions all over the map within the Church in regards to guns, there is no "official" position.

I would just add that the National Catholic Reporter is not a part of the Church, it is a newspaper that covers Catholic issues from a 'progressive' perspective. It has no official connection to the Catholic Church.

[jmdrake]

I think it would be more correct to say that the Catholic Church is statist, and has been for most of its long history.

Correct. "Liberal" versus "conservative" is a red herring.

[Brian4Liberty]

I think it would be more correct to say that the Catholic Church is statist, and has been for most of its long history.

That's the ticket.

[jmdrake]

The National Catholic Reporter is part of the Church's radical Liberal wing. Ignore them, or at least don't associate everything they write as being "Catholic".

You'll find opinions all over the map within the Church in regards to guns, there is no "official" position.

Irrelevant. They're just reporting what is coming from in the church.

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-acti...al-justice.cfm

Responsibility, Rehabilitation, and Restoration: A Catholic Perspective on Crime and Criminal Justice

A Statement of the Catholic Bishops of the United States

Challenging the culture of violence and encouraging a culture of life.
All of us must do more to end violence in the home and to find ways to help victims break out of the pattern of abuse.35 As bishops, we support measures that control the sale and use of firearms and make them safer (especially efforts that prevent their unsupervised use by children or anyone other than the owner), and we reiterate our call for sensible regulation of handguns.

[supermario21]

Traditional Catholics (like Judge Nap) need to fight here. The problem is many in the church see the government as a vehicle to carry out their will more than the church itself. It's as if they have more faith in the government than in our own religion. Instead of charity, for example, let's get government involved. Instead of instilling catholic-esque family values which would do the most to reduce the culture of reckless violence and irresponsibility, let's take away guns. Liberal Catholics anger me, but be careful here. I think in many cases it's nuns (the bus movement, etc) vs. the common faithful, and Hispanic catholics vs. white catholics, at least on issues of the role of governing.

I know I'm going a little bit beyond the scope of this article, but people love to say the Catholic vote is a swing vote. I disagree. Look at exit polls. In a big Catholic state like Ohio, the White Catholic vote (really the only Catholic vote here) favored Romney 56-40, which was just a couple points off his overall total of the white vote nationally. Hispanic Catholics, big for Obama of course.

[jmdrake]

There certainly are liberal elements which have actively been trying to destroy the Church for many, many years. However, the teachings of the Church are not liberal at all and there is a fast growing conservative, traditionalist movement within the Church.

The liberals MUST be exposed and kicked out. Liberals are Satan's agents.

Pope Bennedict with his calls for a "new economic world order" for the "common good" is as statist as you can get.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/wo...pope.html?_r=0

[Confederate]

Pope Bennedict with his calls for a "new economic world order" for the "common good" is as statist as you can get.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/wo...pope.html?_r=0

Interesting that you put "new economic world order" when the encyclical never uses that phrase. The phrase "world order" doesn't even appear a single time. And you might want to find the definition of common good used in the encyclical before you try to dishonestly bring in the socialist definition where something is taken from those who have and given to those who don't. The encyclical is taking about charity and our Christian duty to our neighbour.

Do I agree with the Pope on many of his personal opinions? Absolutely not. Do I believe he is perfect? Of course not. Does he sin? Yes. Does he make mistakes? Many, as we all do.