Cuomo going full tilt with extreme abortion bill

[angelatc]

does not the rape victim have rights? either to abort or conceive? A involuntary act against ones person.

Does she have the right to go out and kill her attacker? No. Maybe she should, but she doesn't. Two victims doesn't make less crime.

[KingNothing]

Does she have the right to go out and kill her attacker? No. Maybe she should, but she doesn't.

In a civilized society, she most certainly should NOT have that right.

[KingNothing]

Why does anybody *need* an abortion?

In spite of what Ron Paul has said, there are legitimate medical reasons to have them. That said, those circumstances are relatively rare.

[kathy88]

A couple of months ago I was reading more Bloomberg gasbagging out loud to my wife and she replied, "Enough about the mayor of New York City. Who is the Governor of New York? Where is he all the time? Shining Bloomberg's shoes?" It was funny at the time. I can't stand Bloomberg, but after reading Cuomo's "ideas" lately, I wish Cuomo would go back to being Bloomberg's shoe-shine boy. Hearing both of them spewing their dreck together is a sickness equivalent to having diarrhea and puking into the tub at the same time.

Best. Analogy. Ever.

[KingNothing]

A couple of months ago I was reading more Bloomberg gasbagging out loud to my wife and she replied, "Enough about the mayor of New York City. Who is the Governor of New York? Where is he all the time? Shining Bloomberg's shoes?" It was funny at the time. I can't stand Bloomberg, but after reading Cuomo's "ideas" lately, I wish Cuomo would go back to being Bloomberg's shoe-shine boy. Hearing both of them spewing their dreck together is a sickness equivalent to having diarrhea and puking into the tub at the same time.

Bloomberg to Cuomo:

[kathy88]

I still don't understand. With all the methods of birth control why is abortion even done. But as I said, I can see it in the case of rape or involuntary incest.

my first was conceived on the pill. Number two by all rights should have had an IUD sticking out of his head. Three and four? Stopped trying to prevent it.

[KingNothing]

my first was conceived on the pill. Number two by all rights should have had an IUD sticking out of his head. Three and four? Stopped trying to prevent it.

Oh, thanks for the personal information. Much appreciated.

[jmdrake]

Exactly, with all the different methods of birth control from vasectomy to condoms, to tubal ligation and depo shots. I can think of two exceptions, rape and/or incest. Other than that why the fuck does anyone need an abortion? Seems more like consequenses of sexual irresponisbility.

Morning after pill stops a pregnancy before the universally medically accepted definition of conception (implantation) and can prevent even fertilization (sometimes sperm doesn't reach the egg until a day or so later).

That said, in every pregnancy there is the possibility of the woman coming down with some disease like cancer where the prescribed treatment could very well kill the fetus. If she's made it to late term a c-section can be performed, but earlier that's a legit reason for an abortion.

[KingNothing]

Morning after pill stops a pregnancy before the universally medically accepted definition of conception (implantation) and can prevent even fertilization (sometimes sperm doesn't reach the egg until a day or so later).

That said, in every pregnancy there is the possibility of the woman coming down with some disease like cancer where the prescribed treatment could very well kill the fetus. If she's made it to late term a c-section can be performed, but earlier that's a legit reason for an abortion.

Correct, and these also exist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectopic_pregnancy Without an abortion that can prove fatal to the mother.

[Confederate]

Correct, and these also exist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectopic_pregnancy Without an abortion that can prove fatal to the mother.

And in 99% of cases result in the death of the child.