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    Quote Originally Posted by fatjohn View Post
    Too much discussion. Need facts. Someone do it, report back and then we can close this thread.
    I heard a radio interview yesterday with the scientist. This whole story was a "what if" media creation. The reporter wanted to talk about recreating a neanderthal. The scientist has no desire or plan to do it.

    He is working on modifying the genetics of living people as part of medical procedures. For example, some people can not catch the HIV virus as they do not have the receptor that HIV needs. They are looking at modifying the DNA of people with HIV/AIDS to have that same trait (absence of that receptor).

    This is a book by the scientist:

    http://www.amazon.com/Regenesis-Synt.../dp/0465021751

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    If we Mundanes are currently hearing about this as a "what if", it means they've already done it, somewhere. No, I don't think I know it all, but I do recognize patterns. They are always decades ahead of us. Sometimes it seems like the only hope we've got is the theory of chaos.
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    Quote from Dr. Ian Malcolm character from "Jurassic Park"
    "Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could that they didn't stop to think if they should."
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    Dr. Ian Malcolm: God creates neanderthal. God destroys neanderthal. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates neanderthal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneEnochs View Post
    Their frontal cortex was smaller, which means that their ability to reason wasn't as profound as ours.

    On an intelligence scale, I would guess they're above dolphins but below us. I'm not even sure they were sentient in the way that we would understand the term.
    The bottlenose dolphin has a pretty impressive brain. I'm not so sure I would rank them below humans. This really gets into a question about the meaning of intelligence. There are different kinds of intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    The bottlenose dolphin has a pretty impressive brain. I'm not so sure I would rank them below humans. This really gets into a question about the meaning of intelligence. There are different kinds of intelligence.
    And sentience. Sentience is not exactly a clear rubicon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Rogue View Post
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    Dr. Ian Malcolm: God creates neanderthal. God destroys neanderthal. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates neanderthal.
    Neanderthal eats man. Woman inherits the Earth...then gets clubbed to death by neanderthal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbot24 View Post
    If we Mundanes are currently hearing about this as a "what if", it means they've already done it, somewhere. No, I don't think I know it all, but I do recognize patterns. They are always decades ahead of us. Sometimes it seems like the only hope we've got is the theory of chaos.
    I'm surprised it took 52 posts for someone to finally say this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    It pisses me off.
    I'm not religious, I like science...
    But this pisses me off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demigod View Post
    That is the point of the slave argument.They were smart enough to use simple tools but never amounted to anything more + were much bigger and stronger.That lack of intelligence would make people look up on them as animals rather than humans.Every bullshit slave owners made up about their slaves just to dehumanize them in the eyes of the general populations for this creature it would be fact,the perfect slave.

    Either slaves or amusement ,there is no other option.Even if they would somehow have an intelligence close to one of a human because of the human DNA of a woman,we today can not yet reconcile the difference of skin color let alone having a species that has totally different physical characteristics that can compete with us.The time before someone starts demanding their extermination can be measured in minutes.God forbid they get a country.
    If that happens then I propose we give them Israel or the Gaza. The land of their ancestors.
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    Consider...

    First,
    that if you take a baby monkey from its mother and keep it in your house, regardless of whether or not you give it the proper food and drink and exercize, that monkey stands a strong change of growing up a basket case. It will likely bear little behavioral resemblance to an adult monkey of its same species. This is fairly well documented.

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    that if you take a baby Chinese human being from its mother and keep her in a cradle for the first two years of its life, regardless of whether or not you give her the proper food and drink and exercize, by the time an American family adopts her, she's very likely to have a laundry list of psychological and developmental issues. In short, she will also bear little behavioral resemblance to a young human being. This is not only well documented, there's actually an industry that gets paid to try to fix these children.

    Third,
    regardless of whether evolution is real, that a Neanderthal must fall somewhere in the interval between monkey and human, including endpoints.

    Fourth,
    that no human being in the last 11,000 years has had the slightest clue what goes into rearing a Neanderthal child.


    Therefore, the chance that this Neanderthal will develop into a balanced individual is pretty damned low.
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