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    FACT:

    The USA produces FAR more QUALITY than China.

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    China overwhelmingly makes garbage trinkets. While they may be improving, their overall quality is nothing like American made.

    Quote Originally Posted by psi2941 View Post
    while that may be true, i feel the GDP numbers are bullshit. If we produce more shit then china, why is everything in the United States made in china? I should see more american made products than Chinese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    The end of the American empire I would welcome... its the American Republic that I am concerned with.
    The American Republic died after the Union won the Civil War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    FACT:

    The USA produces FAR more QUALITY than China.

    FACT:

    China overwhelmingly makes garbage trinkets. While they may be improving, their overall quality is nothing like American made.

    I think some would disagree that China makes garbage trinkets:


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    If it is true that China exports garbage trinkets-it is then equally true we export wealth to purchase those trinkets. You tell me who is coming out the winning end
    Last edited by TomtheTinker; 01-24-2013 at 08:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStarLocke View Post
    I think some would disagree that China makes garbage trinkets:

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the iPhone (and most other electronics) is designed here in the US and then assembled in China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaPirate View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the iPhone (and most other electronics) is designed here in the US and then assembled in China.
    That's correct. But it's a good example of how China can work with its neighbors and the U.S. to put out quality products. The iPhone is far from a garbage trinket and it sells by the millions. So they're certainly capable of putting out quality products.
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    Meh, A revolution stirs in China methinks. Can't keep that many people poor forever.
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    Indeed, that is why that many people will be killed if a revolution was to get started
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    america started going down hill in the early 80's when washington started taking down the middle class thru --trickle down--wto--gatta--nafta .

    we do mfr great hamburgers .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    FACT:

    The USA produces FAR more QUALITY than China.

    FACT:

    China overwhelmingly makes garbage trinkets. While they may be improving, their overall quality is nothing like American made.
    This was true 20 years ago.
    It is less true today.

    Go find a tool sold by Harbor Freight that you would think would be a piece of shit. I can practically guarantee that there's at least four FAQ's on the internet for what you need to do to turn it into a badass tool capable of competing with American made products.

    It's true that they're not selling them ready to go out of the box. But people are willing to spend 1/4 the cost on a tool they need to spend a couple hours tweaking.

    America did the same thing to the Japanese in the 1960s. Back then, anything that came from Japan was crap.
    They did it to the Koreans int he 1990s. Back then, anything from Korea was crap.

    Everything the Chinese produce today is ten times better than it was 20 years ago. And quality is not going down.
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