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NO it isn't.
"and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "
A warrant should only be issued upon probable cause,, Supported by oath and Particularly describing.
but aside from all that, it is not even within the jurisdiction of the US.
That gets into the whole 6th amendment.
You see,, First you have to have an actual crime,, and an exact place that this crime took place,, and on and on and,,,,In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
A server located in another country is of NO CONCERN of US courts.
Period
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Many of them DO recognize the economic significance, they realize it is holding us back immensely. No person or corporation would be dumb enough to hold back an invention that would be valuable to society in fear that somebody else might take their idea, because the sooner they produce it the more THEY get the head start!! By holding it back, they get nothing if somebody else thinks of it and develops it. But just because they develop it doesn't mean they get to have monopoly rights, that is ludicrous. Not only do you have the cost to society of a monopoly producer making monopoly prices, but you have an artificially low supply being produced which also increases prices even more. Then you have the costs of paying lawyers and government to enforce all this stuff and so we gotta pay more taxes and pay to shut down producers who would be benefiting society by producing these goods.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
The Works are protected by the U.S constitution, the case against Kim has gone to a judge who seized his domain and there is a pending extradition request. I am sure the DoJ are in compliance with the law and rights holders have a reasonable expectation that their constitutional rights are upheld by the administration.
Indeed, probably the only decent thing that Obama administration might do in the next 4 years is have Kim incarcerated in a Federal prison for a very long time.
If you feel so strongly about it then campaign to have the constitution amended....
In the mean time the rights holders have a reasonable expectation that their constitutional rights are upheld and yes Kim has a reasonable expectation of due process of law which is what he will get once he's in a Federal courthouse.
Also the dude is planning to bribe New Zealand by paying for a second fibre optic ocean cable which we sorely need.
If he takes down the Internet monopoly he will be *extremely* popular.
In New Zealand:
The Coastguard is a Charity
Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
The DMV is a private non-profit
Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
A tax return has 4 fields
Business licenses aren't a thing
Prostitution is legal
We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care
Wait is he an American? You talk about the constitution in regards like he is? As far as I know he is not and never has been so what the $#@! are we talking about? The only involvement the DOJ should have in this is users on our side of the pond.
Yep. You're so sure of the righteousness of your cause that you chose to leave it completely out of your initial post in this thread and instead harp on made up allegations of child porn because it could "potentially" be on the new encrypted servers. Meanwhile for the rest of us who have been thinking "Yeah...that cloud storage thing looks tempting....but it would suck if the host could ignore the privacy policy whenever it wants and look at our private data or worse, give it to the government" what Kim is doing is a godsend. I only hope the rest of the cloud storage industry follows suit.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Constitutionalist.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution, known as the Copyright Clause, empowers the United States Congress:
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.
Yawners...
"FOR A LIMITED TIME" - Which Congress has TOTALLY $#@!ED UP!
Please leave!
-t
In your dreams
You are clearly not one of us. You would find much better company at Red State or another neocon board. Please leave our company. Our community. You just do not fit in!
-t
Last edited by tangent4ronpaul; 01-21-2013 at 07:05 PM.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
I never called you a Fascist. However,,
Authoritarian.
The polar opposite of Dr Paul's known and stated positions.adjective
1.
favoring complete obedience or subjection to authority as opposed to individual freedom: authoritarian principles; authoritarian attitudes.
2.
of or pertaining to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state, centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally accountable to the people.
noun
4.
a person who favors or acts according to authoritarian principles.
Just sayin'
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Selling the product under a false name, incorrect attribute is not copyright infringement, or at least not exclusively, usually that is plagiarsim (which is actually not illegal), fraud, and trademark infringement. To violate copyright, you only need to make unauthorized copies not exempt under fair use (regardless of whether you profited).
I love New Zealand. I just got a lb. of grassfed wagyu ground beef from New Zealand, that's related to the kobe beef from Japan. It was cheaper than the 'organic' grass fed regular beef at the same store, go figure. I don't like importing meat, but New Zealand apparently has a lot of extra grass fed meat, we aren't making enough here so prices are relatively high. Damn did it make a tasty burger, lots of fat, and the good grassfed kind.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Fair Use you say.
So,, I have some music that I bought. (paid for and own a disk/tape)
You are saying that I can not play it for a friend? I can not share that which I own?
Can I sell the disk,, as used? What about a book? can I sell used books?
Can I give them away?
I understand the use and benefits of copyright and of patents,, but firmly believe present laws have gone far beyond original protections and all related law needs serious reevaluation.
Last edited by pcosmar; 01-21-2013 at 08:54 PM.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Nope, you definitely can play it to A friend. Not sure what you mean by share, there are many ways you are able and willing to "share", not all of which are legal or authorized.
Yes to all, all of which are all authorized. It's called first sale doctrine (or exhaustion). Are you playing dumb? Or do you actually not know the difference between transferring posession of an authorized copy with making an unauthorized copy? (Note, playing it at a friend's house is different than playing it on a radio, public place) We're talking about creative works, from books to music to movies. This is entirely different than software, when it's explicitly licensed for use, and never sold to the user. You have to explicitly agreed not to re-use, resell, make copies and all that good stuff.Can I sell the disk,, as used? What about a book? can I sell used books?
Can I give them away?
No disagreement there.I understand the use and benefits of copyright and of patents,, but firmly believe present laws have gone far beyond original protections and all related law needs serious reevaluation.
Last edited by Tpoints; 01-21-2013 at 10:31 PM.
If your buy a copy of a work and it won't play properly, if you do anything to 'help' it play you will pretty much be in serious violation of the DCMA.
God forbid you want to transfer a book or song that you purchased from one machine that you own to another machine that you own for your personal use. That stopped being fair use about 20 years ago.
Putting multiple songs onto a CDR so you can listen to them in your car? You are personally destroying the music industry and should rot in jail.
In New Zealand:
The Coastguard is a Charity
Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
The DMV is a private non-profit
Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
A tax return has 4 fields
Business licenses aren't a thing
Prostitution is legal
We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care
If your buy a copy of a work and it won't play properly, if you do anything to 'help' it play you will pretty much be in serious violation of the DCMA.
God forbid you want to transfer a book or song that you purchased from one machine that you own to another machine that you own for your personal use. That stopped being fair use about 20 years ago.
Putting multiple songs onto a CDR so you can listen to them in your car? You are personally destroying the music industry and should rot in jail.
In New Zealand:
The Coastguard is a Charity
Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
The DMV is a private non-profit
Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
A tax return has 4 fields
Business licenses aren't a thing
Prostitution is legal
We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care
I don't think it's authoritarian to want Kim brought to justice.
Rights holders, artists, producers and software engineers pay a lot of money in tax to the Feds so what's wrong with getting them to enforce the law? If it means activating a legally entered in to treaty with the govt of New Zealand then so be it. All they're asking for the Feds to pursue it through the proper and correct channels. If there's a case to answer then he will have his day in court.
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