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    http://kdvr.com/2013/01/18/photos-ut...-into-jcpenny/

    RIVERDALE, Utah – Facebook photos of a man armed with a rifle shopping at a Riverdale JCPenney have gone viral.

    According to KTSU, Cindy Yorgason took the photos on Wednesday and posted them on her Facebook profile. They show a man in line at the store with a rifle slung across his back.

    Weber Area Dispatch said a 22-year-old man names Joseph Kelley called them on Wednesday to let them know he was planning to carry his weapons in public. He told police he brought the assault rifle to the store to demonstrate that they are not dangerous in the hands of law-abiding citizens.

    While openly carrying weapons is legal in Utah, many businesses have their own policies against it.

    Store officials are now saying they’re looking into the incident. They haven’t released their official policy regarding guns in the store.


    was carrying an unloaded rifle and a glock with extra magazines.



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    Seems needlessly provocative at this moment, but that's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    ...but that's just my opinion.
    Correct.
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    I am currently looking into the laws in Minnesota to see if I'm lawfully able to do the same.

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    Provocative, but... Nothing happened. This is something that needs to be encouraged. Repeatedly. Until it is the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Correct.
    True.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Landon View Post
    I am currently looking into the laws in Minnesota to see if I'm lawfully able to do the same.

    - ML
    You need a permit to carry a pistol. Open or concealed.

    Looks like open carry of long guns are prohibited.

    http://smartgunlaws.org/open-carrying-policy-summary/
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSWPaulsen View Post
    Provocative, but... Nothing happened. This is something that needs to be encouraged. Repeatedly. Until it is the norm.
    Yeah, maybe you are right... maybe what we really need is a mass movement of publicly armed individuals...

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    It is legal, he even called ahead, yet police are looking into the 'incident'?

    Where's the story?
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    I appreciate people open carrying; however, this gentleman needed to set his sling so that the weapon was pointed down or straight up. The way he was carrying it was muzzle sweeping everyone else.

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    I think a concealed weapon is more useful and valuable than a weapon carried out in the open. Why alert would be bad guys that you have a weapon to stop them, they will shoot you first and take your gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    I think a concealed weapon is more useful and valuable than a weapon carried out in the open. Why alert would be bad guys that you have a weapon to stop them, they will shoot you first and take your gun.
    Might be a little difficult with a long gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    I think a concealed weapon is more useful and valuable than a weapon carried out in the open. Why alert would be bad guys that you have a weapon to stop them, they will shoot you first and take your gun.
    That's one thought, but consider this... it invites more people to do the same. A psycho may be able to take one guy... but not 5, 10, or more Open carrying is a force deterrent... just like a armed guard. Thugs still move on guards, but it doesn't happen that often. Even criminals don't like getting shot. They will move onto a soft target in most cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFPVet View Post
    I appreciate people open carrying; however, this gentleman needed to set his sling so that the weapon was pointed down or straight up. The way he was carrying it was muzzle sweeping everyone else.

    Safety first!
    I agree. I think the hand gun is one thing and the other is cumbersome in that setting, but I agree from living in California the people, not seeing them, are much more terrified than those who go to gun ranges or see them around.

    I'm sure he was trying to breed familiarity.
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    Duplicate post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Might be a little difficult with a long gun.
    That's true... a long gun is going to make a thug with a pistol have a very bad day. The rifle has more power and is more accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    Seems needlessly provocative at this moment, but that's just my opinion.
    That was my opinion as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    You need a permit to carry a pistol. Open or concealed.

    Looks like open carry of long guns are prohibited.

    http://smartgunlaws.org/open-carrying-policy-summary/
    Minnesota sucks.

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    Out of what 300+ million people did today,how is this news?More people need to do this,I have stood in line behind armed cops in convenience stores countless times and never thought twice about it.What if he went off the rails and started shooting everybody? Do people here just consider cops more stable than civilians as a group?If someone says this is needlessly provocative,that tells me that millions of civilians need to be doing it until it is commonplace and nothing to remark upon.

    The fact that this is news in Utah,let alone thousands of miles away,is a sad commentary on our current state of affairs.

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    seriously.
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    Utah gives me hope for the 2nd Amendment.

    The whole Mitt Romney thing was quite disappointing (although he was more closely related to Massachusettism than Mormanism), but in general, Utah seems to know what it's doing.
    If something bad happens, we will be blamed. If something good happens, we will get no credit. If nothing happens, we will be forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad cow View Post
    I have stood in line behind armed cops in convenience stores
    Statistically more likely to shoot a civilian than another civilian...

    "The-Newz" could focus on that fact if they chose to..........

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    Anyone else going to a Gun Appreciation Day rally today?

    I think I'll run down to the state capitol and join in...
    "Sorry, guys, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."
    "What is this, a home owner's association? Why the need to try and control other people's behavior?"



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    This should not have been news. It should have been common occurance and unworthy of notice.
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