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    For 40 Years, This Russian Family Was Cut Off From All Human Contact

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...188843001.html

    Siberian summers do not last long. The snows linger into May, and the cold weather returns again during September, freezing the taiga into a still life awesome in its desolation: endless miles of straggly pine and birch forests scattered with sleeping bears and hungry wolves; steep-sided mountains; white-water rivers that pour in torrents through the valleys; a hundred thousand icy bogs. This forest is the last and greatest of Earth's wildernesses. It stretches from the furthest tip of Russia's arctic regions as far south as Mongolia, and east from the Urals to the Pacific: five million square miles of nothingness, with a population, outside a handful of towns, that amounts to only a few thousand people.

    When the warm days do arrive, though, the taiga blooms, and for a few short months it can seem almost welcoming. It is then that man can see most clearly into this hidden world—not on land, for the taiga can swallow whole armies of explorers, but from the air. Siberia is the source of most of Russia's oil and mineral resources, and, over the years, even its most distant parts have been overflown by oil prospectors and surveyors on their way to backwoods camps where the work of extracting wealth is carried on.

    Thus it was in the remote south of the forest in the summer of 1978. A helicopter sent to find a safe spot to land a party of geologists was skimming the treeline a hundred or so miles from the Mongolian border when it dropped into the thickly wooded valley of an unnamed tributary of the Abakan, a seething ribbon of water rushing through dangerous terrain. The valley walls were narrow, with sides that were close to vertical in places, and the skinny pine and birch trees swaying in the rotors' downdraft were so thickly clustered that there was no chance of finding a spot to set the aircraft down. But, peering intently through his windscreen in search of a landing place, the pilot saw something that should not have been there. It was a clearing, 6,000 feet up a mountainside, wedged between the pine and larch and scored with what looked like long, dark furrows. The baffled helicopter crew made several passes before reluctantly concluding that this was evidence of human habitation—a garden that, from the size and shape of the clearing, must have been there for a long time.

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    Wow! An amazing story! Notice that they discovered persistence hunting on their own.
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    Heard about this in college, truly awesome to read of it in detail.

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    This is beyond Into The Wild. I wish I had their survival skills.

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    I had to send this to the Russian member of my family. I can identify with this family in a lot of ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    I can identify with this family in a lot of ways.
    Home schooled survivalists who didn't pay taxes, ate hemp, and didn't believe men had ever landed on the Moon... A lot of people here can identify with them in a lot of ways.
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    Wow! Interesting story. A few key takeaways. It sounds like hemp was part of their survival both for clothes and food. They missed WW II and Stalins purges. (Yeah!) They still had to deal with starvation (boo) and most of them died shortly after the outside world found them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Wow! Interesting story. A few key takeaways. It sounds like hemp was part of their survival both for clothes and food. They missed WW II and Stalins purges. (Yeah!) They still had to deal with starvation (boo) and most of them died shortly after the outside world found them.
    I'm guessing the outsiders brought with them diseases. I don't know why but I find the whole thing really sad.
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    It sounds like one of the things they most lacked was a decent weapon for taking down big game. You don't have to wear sacks if you have animal hides and know how to tan them.
    The proper concern of society is the preservation of individual freedom; the proper concern of the individual is the harmony of society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Home schooled survivalists who didn't pay taxes, ate hemp, and didn't believe men had ever landed on the Moon... A lot of people here can identify with them in a lot of ways.
    Only the first thing on your list is what I identify with.
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    As the Soviet geologists got to know the Lykov family, they realized that they had underestimated their abilities and intelligence. Each family member had a distinct personality; Old Karp was usually delighted by the latest innovations that the scientists brought up from their camp, and though he steadfastly refused to believe that man had set foot on the moon, he adapted swiftly to the idea of satellites. The Lykovs had noticed them as early as the 1950s, when "the stars began to go quickly across the sky," and Karp himself conceived a theory to explain this: "People have thought something up and are sending out fires that are very like stars.

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    that reads right out of a Jane Goodall write up of her experiences with 'those amazing baboon!'

    It is sad to know they have little say over their lives from here on out. Still, it wasn't a matter of choice, for the children, so I don't know.
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    Also interesting that they found television utterly compelling.

    edit: this is probably what killed them.
    Last edited by Acala; 01-30-2013 at 03:40 PM.
    The proper concern of society is the preservation of individual freedom; the proper concern of the individual is the harmony of society.

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    "Who overcomes by force, hath overcome but half his foe." - Milton

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    Fascinating!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    Fascinating!
    Indeed. I have no doubt it was their faith that kept them alive (and sane) for so long.

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    Documentary about the family:








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    Quote Originally Posted by Confederate View Post
    Indeed. I have no doubt it was their faith that kept them alive (and sane) for so long.
    I'm sure you are right. Thanks for the videos!
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    This is link to 'The Life of St. Mary of Egypt', a biography of one of the greatest Christian saints, who was a prostitute during the (I believe 4th century) who repented and left the world to live alone in the Egypt desert for decades. It is another amazing story of the power of the human spirit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    It sounds like one of the things they most lacked was a decent weapon for taking down big game. You don't have to wear sacks if you have animal hides and know how to tan them.
    Yeah, I was thinking that if they had been better prepared, they could've lived a much better (and presumably easier) life. Even if they had had "spare" iron parts that would have allowed them to use pots for as long as they were living there and if they had more skills such as snares.

    I suspect that native americans lived much easier lives than these people, both due to a more hospitable climate AND more skills.
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    Powerful story. The adaptability and ingenuity of people always impresses me.



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