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    Default The Burden of State Licensing

    I tend to experience in the business world and just life experience at large that there seems to be a swelling of licensing. I can see the reason behind some licensing such as Driver Licenses that are used on public roadways due to the fact that it is property "owned by the public". My post is not to get into drivers licenses, but rather to look at the control that the state has over the worker in regards to his or her skill and the way he or she chooses to use that skill. The absurdity lies in the fact that frequently licenses are required to complete the agreement between two or more people which involves performance of some service that effects personal property. Its absurd to think that one should be licensed to give martial arts lessons to a paying customer, to auctioneer a sale, or even to build a house. These agreements do not involve or effect the public and their tax dollars.

    I don't see many people talk about it, but I find it of great importance. Not only are you getting taxed on your income, but with licensing, the powers that be control the way (and even if) you conduct your service. Its bullshit.

    Below is some great information I found on Reason Foundation website: http://reason.org/news/show/1002854.html

    I have listed the data below and made a chart to show you which states have a greater burden than others in regards to licensing.

    FSP, what's up with this?



    Below is the tally for each Occupation Area: Mind you that each area probably has more than one license. The data is hard to read but you can see for instance that Accounting is licensed in all States. That is why their is a "50" at the end.

    Reason Foundation's List of Occupations Requiring Licensing in the United States State Total Number of States That Regulate Occupation

    Accountants and Auditors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Actuaries 1 1
    Administrative Service Managers 1 1
    Adult Literacy, Remedial Education, and GED Teachers and Instructors 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Advertising Sales Agents 1 1
    Aerospace Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10
    Agents and Business Managers of Artists, Performers, and Athletes 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 22
    Agricultural Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11
    Agricultural Inspectors 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Agricultural Sciences Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1
    Agricultural Workers, All Other 1 1 2
    Aircraft Pilots and Instructors (in addition to FAA) 1 1
    Ambulance Drivers and Attendants, Except Emergency Medical Technicians 1 1 1 1 4
    Amusement and Recreation Attendants 1 1
    Anesthesiologists 1 1 1 1 4
    Animal Breeders 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Animal Control Workers 1 1 1 1 4
    Animal Scientists 1 1
    Animal Trainers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 9
    Appraisers and Assessors of Real Estate 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Arbitrators, Mediators, and Conciliators 1 1 2
    Arborists, Tree Surgeons, and Tree Service Specialty Contractors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 8
    Architects, Except Landscape and Naval 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Art, Drama, and Music Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1
    Athletes and Sports Competitors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 22
    Athletic Trainers and Valets 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 28
    Atmospheric and Space Scientists 1 1
    Audiologists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 49
    Auditors, Energy 1 1
    Automotive Glass Installers and Repairers 1 1
    Automotive Master Mechanics 1 1 2
    Automotive Service Technicians and Mechanics 1 1 1 3
    Barbers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Bartenders 1 1 1 1 4
    Bill and Account Collectors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10
    Biochemists 1 1
    Biological Scientists, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Biological Technicians 1 1 1 3
    Biomedical Engineers 1 1 2
    Boiler Operators and Tenders, Low Pressure 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Boilermakers 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Bus Drivers, School 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 13
    Bus Drivers, Transit and Intercity 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 12
    Business Operations Specialists, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Cabinetmakers and Bench Carpenters 1 1 2
    Calibration and Instrumentation Technicians 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Captains, Mates, and Pilots of Water Vessels 1 1 2
    Cardiovascular Technologists and Technicians 1 1 2
    Cargo and Freight Agents 1 1 2
    Carpenters 1 1 1 1 4
    Carpet Installers 1 1
    Cashiers, Parimutuel (Horse Racing) 1 1 1 3
    Cement Masons and Concrete Finishers 1 1 2
    Chemical Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 15
    Chemical Plant and System Operators 1 1
    Chemistry Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1
    Chemists 1 1
    Child Care Workers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10
    Child, Family, and School Social Workers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 12
    Chiropractors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Civil Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 18
    Clinical and School Psychologists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 27
    Coaches and Instructors, Athletics 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Coin, Vending, and Slot Machine Servicers and Repairers 1 1 1 3
    Collections Agency Managers 1 1 1 3
    Commercial Pilots, Aerial Pesticide Applicators 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Computer Hardware Engineers 1 1 1 1 4
    Computer Science Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1
    Construction Managers and Contractors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 27
    Construction and Building Inspectors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 21
    Construction and Related Workers, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Control and Valve Installers and Repairers, Except Mechanical Door 1 1
    Conveyor Operators and Tenders 1 1 2
    Coroners 1 1 2
    Correctional Officers and Jailers 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Cosmetologists, Hairdressers, and Hairstylists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Counselors, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 27
    Counter and Rental Clerks 1 1 2
    Court Clerks 1 1
    Court Reporters 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 21
    Crane and Tower Operators 1 1 1 1 4
    Credit Analysts 1 1
    Criminal Justice and Law Enforcement Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1 1 3
    Dental Assistants 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 16
    Dental Hygienists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Dental Laboratory Technicians 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Dentists, All Other Specialists 1 1 1 1 4
    Dentists, General 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Dietetic Technicians 1 1
    Dieticians and Nutritionists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 34
    Dining Room and Cafeteria Attendants and Bartender Helpers 1 1
    Door-to-Door Sales Workers, News and Street Vendors, and Related Workers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Driver/Sales Workers 1 1
    Drywall Installers 1 1 1 3
    Earth Drillers, Except Oil and Gas 1 1 1 3
    Education Administrators, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 18
    Education Administrators, Elementary and Secondary 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 16
    Education Administrators, Preschool and Child Care Center/Program 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Education Administrators, School Superintendents 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 12
    Education, Training, and Library Workers, All Others 1 1
    Educational, Vocational, and School Counselors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Electrical Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 15
    Electrical Power-Line Installers and Repairers 1 1 2
    Electrical and Electronics Repairers, Powerhouse, Substation, and Relay 1 1
    Electricians 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 32
    Electronic Home Entertainment Equipment Installers and Repairers 1 1 1 3
    Electronics Engineering Technicians 1 1 2
    Electronics Engineers, Except Computer 1 1 1 1 4
    Elementary (Public) School Teachers, Except Special Education 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Elevator Installers and Repairers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10
    Emergency Medical Technicians and Paramedics 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Employment Interviewers, Private or Public Employment Service 1 1
    Employment, Recruitment, and Placement Specialists 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Engine and Other Machine Assemblers 1 1
    Engineering Managers 1 1
    Engineering Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1
    Engineers, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 38
    Entertainers and Performers, Sports and Related Workers, All Others 1 1 1 3
    Environmental Compliance Inspectors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11
    Environmental Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Environmental Science Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1
    Environmental Science and Protection Technicians, Including Health 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11
    Environmental Scientists and Specialists, Including Health 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10
    Excavating and Loading Machine Operators 1 1 2
    Executive Secretaries and Administrative Assistants 1 1
    Explosives Workers, Ordnance Handling Experts, and Blasters 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 20
    Extraction Workers, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Farm Labor Contractors 1 1 2
    Farm and Home Management Advisors 1 1 2
    Farmers and Ranchers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Farmworkers and Laborers, Crop, Nursery, and Greenhouse 1 1
    Farmworkers, Farm and Ranch Animals 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Fence Erectors 1 1
    Fiberglass Laminators and Fabricators 1 1
    Financial Specialists, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11
    Fire Fighters 1 1 1 1 4
    Fire Inspectors 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Fire-Prevention and Protection Engineers 1 1 1 1 4
    First-Line Supervisors and Manager/Supervisors - Construction Trades Workers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 15
    First-Line Supervisors and Manager/Supervisors - Extractive Workers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 8
    First-Line Supervisors, Customer Service 1 1 2
    First-Line Supervisors/Managers of Construction Trades and Extraction Workers 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    First-Line Supervisors/Managers of Farming, Fishing, and Forestry Workers 1 1
    First-Line Supervisors/Managers of Landscaping, Lawn Service, and Groundskeeping Workers 1 1 1 3
    First-Line Supervisors/Managers of Mechanics, Installers, and Repairers 1 1 1 1 4
    First-Line Supervisors/Managers of Non-Retail Sales Workers 1 1
    First-Line Supervisors/Managers of Personal Service Workers 1 1 2
    First-Line Supervisors/Managers of Production and Operating Workers 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    First-Line Supervisors/Managers, Protective Service Workers, All Other 1 1
    Fish and Game Wardens 1 1
    Fishers and Related Fishing Workers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10
    Floor Layers, Except Carpet, Wood, and Hard Tiles 1 1
    Floor Sanders and Finishers 1 1
    Food Batchmakers 1 1
    Food Cooking Machine Operators and Tenders 1 1
    Food Science Technicians 1 1 2
    Food Service Managers 1 1 2
    Foreign Language and Literature Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1
    Forensic Science Technicians, Polygraph Examiner 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 19
    Forest and Conservation Workers 1 1 1 3
    Foresters 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 12
    Funeral Directors/Embalmers/Morticians 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 49
    Gaming Cage Workers, Change Persons, and Booth Cashiers 1 1 1 1 4
    Gaming Computer Systems Operators or Repairers 1 1 1 3
    Gaming Dealers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Gaming - Horse Racing Vendors 1 1 1 1 4
    Gaming Managers 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Gaming - Race Horse Owners 1 1
    Gaming - Restaurant Managers 1 1
    Gaming Service Workers, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 8
    Gaming Supervisors 1 1 1 3
    Gaming Surveillance Officers, Security Officers, and Gaming Investigators 1 1 1 3
    Gas Appliance Repairers 1 1
    General and Operations Managers 1 1 1 3
    Geological and Petroleum Technicians 1 1 2
    Geologists and Hydrologists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
    Glaziers 1 1 1 1 4
    Government Service Executives, Superintendents of Schools 1 1
    Grader, Bulldozer, and Scraper Operators 1 1 1 1 4
    Graders and Sorters, Agricultural Products 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 13
    Hazardous Material Removal Workers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
    Health Diagnosing and Treating Practitioners, All Other, including Acupuncturists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 34
    Health Educators 1 1
    Health Specialties Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1 1 1 4
    Health Technologists and Technicians, All Other, including Hearing Aid Dispensers 1 1 1 1 4
    Health and Safety Engineers, Except Mining Safety Engineers and Inspectors 1 1 1 1 4
    Healthcare Support Workers, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 9
    Hearing Aid Dispensers and Fitters 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Heating, Air Conditioning, and Refrigeration Mechanics and Installers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 17
    Hoist and Winch Operators 1 1 1 1 4
    Home Appliance Installers 1 1 1 3
    Home Health Aides 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Human Resources, Training, and Labor Relations Specialists, All Other 1 1
    Hunters and Trappers, Commercial 1 1 1 3
    Industrial Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 13
    Industrial Production Managers 1 1 1 3
    Installation, Maintenance, and Repair Workers, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 18
    Instructional Coordinators 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 8
    Insulation Workers, Floor, Ceiling, and Wall 1 1 2
    Insurance Adjusters, Examiners, and Investigators 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 28
    Insurance Appraisers, Auto Damage 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Insurance Sales Agents 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Insurance Underwriters 1 1
    Interior Designers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 15
    Internists, General 1 1 2
    Interpreters and Translators 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Janitors and Cleaners, Except Maids and Housekeeping Cleaners - Chimney Sweepers 1 1
    Kindergarten Teachers, Except Special Education 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 12
    Land Surveyors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Landscape Architects 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 43
    Landscaping and Groundskeeping Workers 1 1
    Lawyers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Legal Support Workers, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Librarians 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 19
    Library Science Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1
    Library Technicians 1 1
    Lifeguards, Ski Patrol, and Other Recreational Protective Service Workers 1 1
    Loan Officers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 13
    Lobbyists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 9
    Locksmiths and Safe Repairers 1 1 2
    Lodging Managers 1 1
    Log Graders and Scalers 1 1
    Maintenance Workers, Machinery 1 1
    Maintenance and Repair Workers, General 1 1 2
    Managers, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Manicurists and Pedicurists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 37
    Manufactured Building and Mobile Home Installers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Marine Architects 1 1 2
    Marine Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Marriage and Family Therapists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 34
    Massage Therapists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 22
    Material Moving Workers, All Other 1 1 2
    Materials Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 9
    Materials Inspectors 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Mathematical Science Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1
    Mechanical Door Repairers 1 1
    Mechanical Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 15
    Mechanical Inspectors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 12
    Medical Assistants 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11
    Medical Records and Health Information Technicians 1 1 2
    Medical Scientists, Except Epidemiologists 1 1 2
    Medical and Clinical Laboratory Technicians and Technologists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10
    Medical and Health Services Managers, including Nursing Home Administrators 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Medical and Public Health Social Workers 1 1 1 3
    Mental Health Counselors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 16
    Mental Health and Substance Abuse Social Workers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11
    Metal Workers and Plastic Workers, All Other 1 1
    Microbiologists 1 1
    Middle (Public) School Teachers, Except Special and Vocational Education 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Millwrights 1 1
    Mining and Geological Engineers, Including Mining Safety Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 17
    Mixing and Blending Machine Setters, Operators, and Tenders 1 1 2
    Motion Picture Projectionists 1 1
    Motor Vehicle Operators, All Other 1 1
    Municipal Fire Fighters 1 1
    Municipal Fire Fighting and Prevention Supervisors 1 1 2
    Nonfarm Animal Caretakers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10
    Nuclear Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 12
    Nuclear Medicine Technologists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 12
    Nuclear Power Reactor Operators 1 1 2
    Nursery Workers 1 1 1 3
    Nursery and Greenhouse Managers 1 1
    Nurses, Licensed Practical and Licensed Vocational 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Nursing Aides, Orderlies, and Attendants 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 31
    Nursing Instructors and Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1
    Obstetricians and Gynecologists 1 1 2
    Occupational Health and Safety Technicians and Specialists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 22
    Occupational Therapy Assistants 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 33
    Occupational Therapists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Office and Administrative Support Workers, All Other - Notaries Public 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Operating Engineers and Other Construction Equipment Operators 1 1 1 3
    Opticians, Dispensing 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
    Optometrists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons 1 1 2
    Ordinary Seamen and Marine Oilers 1 1 2
    Orthodontists 1 1 1 3
    Orthotists and Prosthetists 1 1 2
    Packers and Packagers, Hand 1 1
    Painters, Construction and Maintenance 1 1 1 3
    Paperhangers 1 1
    Paving, Surfacing, and Tamping Equipment Operators 1 1 2
    Personal Care and Service Workers, All Other, including Tattoo Artists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 15
    Personal Finance Advisors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 14
    Personal and Home Care Aides 1 1 2
    Personnel Recruiters 1 1
    Pest Control Workers/Pesticide Handlers, Sprayers, Applicators, and Dealers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Petroleum Engineers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 13
    Pharmacists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Pharmacy Technicians 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 14
    Physical Therapy Assistants 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 33
    Physical Therapists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Physician Assistants 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Physicians and Surgeons, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Physics Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1
    Pile-Driver Operators 1 1
    Pilots, Ship 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 14
    Pipelayers and Pipelaying Fitters 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Plant Scientists 1 1
    Plant and System Operators, All Other 1 1 1 3
    Plumbers, Pipefitters, Gas Fitters, and Steamfitters 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 39
    Podiatrists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Police Detectives 1 1 2
    Police Identification and Records Officers 1 1
    Police and Sheriffs Patrol Officers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 16
    Police, Fire, and Ambulance Dispatchers 1 1 1 1 4
    Postsecondary Teachers, All Other 1 1 2
    Precision Devices Inspectors and Testers 1 1 2
    Preschool Teachers, Except Special Education 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 8
    Pressure Vessel/Boiler Inspectors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 14
    Private Detectives and Investigators 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 44
    Probation Officers and Correctional Treatment Specialists 1 1 1 1 4
    Product Safety Engineers 1 1
    Production Workers, All Other 1 1
    Property, Real Estate, and Community Association Managers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Prosthodontists 1 1 2
    Protective Service Workers, All Other 1 1 1 3
    Psychiatric Technicians 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Psychiatrists 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Psychologists, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Public Address System and Other Announcers - Boxing Ring Announcers 1 1 2
    Purchasing Agents and Buyers (Dealers), Agricultural/Farm Products 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 9
    Purchasing Agents, Except Wholesale, Retail, and Farm Products 1 2
    Radiologic Technicians, Technologists, and Therapists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 31
    Range Mangers, Certified Wetlands Scientists 1 1
    Real Estate Sales Agents and Brokers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Recreation Guides and Other Recreation Workers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11
    Recreational Therapists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Refrigeration Mechanics 1 1 1 1 4
    Registered Nurses 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Rehabilitation Counselors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Repossessor Agency Manager 1 1
    Respiratory Therapists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 32
    Respiratory Therapy Technicians 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Retail Salespersons 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 14
    Roofers 1 1 1 1 1 1 6
    Rotary Drill Operators, Oil and Gas 1 1
    Sales Representatives, Agricultural - Lobster Sellers 1 1
    Sales Representatives, Chemical and Pharmaceutical 1 1 1 3
    Sales Representatives, Instruments 1 1 1 1 4
    Sales Representatives, Mechanical Equipment and Supplies - Aircraft Dealers 1 1
    Sales Representatives, Services, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10
    Sales Representatives, Wholesale and Manufacturing, Except Technical and Scientific Products 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 13
    Sales and Related Workers, All Other, including Auctioneers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 24
    Secondary (Public) School Teachers, Except Special and Vocational Education 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Securities, Commodities, and Financial Services Sales Agents 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Security Guards 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 31
    Security and Fire Alarm System Installers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 18
    Self-Enrichment Education Teachers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 15
    Separating, Filtering, Clarifying, Precipitating, and Still Machine Setters, Operators, and Tenders 1 1 1 3
    Septic Tank Servicers and Sewer Pipe Cleaners 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 9
    Sheet Metal Workers 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Ship and Boat Captains and Pilots 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 17
    Skin Care Specialists and Aestheticians 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
    Social Sciences Teachers, Postsecondary, All Other 1 1
    Social Workers, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Soil Scientists and Classifiers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 8
    Special Education Teachers, Middle School 1 1 1 1 4
    Special Education Teachers, Preschool, Kindergarten, and Elementary School 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 9
    Special Education Teachers, Secondary School 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 8
    Speech-Language Pathologists 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 48
    Station Installers and Repairers, Telephone 1 1
    Stationary Engineers and Boiler Operators 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Storage and Distribution Managers 1 1 2
    Structural Iron and Steel Workers 1 1 1 3
    Substance Abuse and Behavioral Disorder Counselors 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 21
    Surgeon Assistants 1 1
    Tax Preparers 1 1
    Taxi Drivers and Chauffeurs 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 13
    Taxidermist 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 29
    Teacher Assistants 1 1 1 3
    Teachers and Instructors, All Other 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 33
    Telemarketers 1 1
    Tile, Marble, and Terrazzo Contractors 1 1 1 3
    Title Examiners and Abstractors 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Truck Drivers, Commercial 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Transportation Managers 1 1 1 1 4
    Transportation Workers, All Other - Elevator Operators 1 1
    Travel Agents 1 1 2
    Truck Drivers, Heavy and Tractor-Trailer 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 24
    Truck Drivers, Light or Delivery Services 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Umpires, Referees, and Other Sports Officials 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 19
    Upholsterers 1 1 2
    Urban and Regional Planners 1 1
    Veterinarians 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Veterinary Assistants, Technicians, and Wildlife Rehabilitators 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50
    Vocational Education Teachers, Postsecondary 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 28
    Vocational Education Teachers, Middle School 1 1 1 1 1 5
    Vocational Education Teachers, Secondary School 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 13
    Water and Wastewater Laboratory, Treatment Plant, and System Operators 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 32
    Weighers, Measurers, Checkers, and Samplers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 8
    Welders 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7
    Well Drillers and Pump Installers 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 19
    Wholesale and Retail Buyers, Except Farm Products 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7

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    The free market could take care of rating every single one of those occupations,even more so now with the internet.

    All 50 States license barbers,yet it is perfectly legal for your mom to stick a bowl on your head and cut off whatever sticks out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad cow View Post
    The free market could take care of rating every single one of those occupations,even more so now with the internet.

    All 50 States license barbers,yet it is perfectly legal for your mom to stick a bowl on your head and cut off whatever sticks out.
    until you try to give some other kid a bowl cut.

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    It would be interesting to know what the need was to create the process of licensing related to the king being as he was the owner of all property both public and private. All people in such a kingdom would have fallen under his domain. So, I'm thinking the licensing process had to be a result of appeasement towards those ranking individuals within his Aristocracy of Nobility, those he would have had to established around himself for his protection.
    Any time an advancement has been made in regards to the social contract relationship between the king and the people, before his inverse or perverse of the prostitute was established to confront his conscience, he would manage to compromise their position lessening the benefits for the people by offering members within the Aristocracy a settlement that was both a benefit for them and a detriment for the commoner.
    To use the American Enlightenment as an example, while our Founders said "all men" are created equally "endowed" (using this word in a different manner than it is normally utilized today), the legal interpretations later on founded the people to be in pretty much the same rotten social order that existed prior within the old royal kingdom as well as within the old puritan order.
    That is why I established a new American political spectrum depicting a king as the owner of all things on one end and a worthless prostitute as the owner of nothing on the other inverse end even to the extent she is considered to be his property.
    As a whore can be judged legally insane at any time, she can be legally stripped of any means to protect herself. But this should be considered as contempt against the people's Civil Purpose. Thought I would mention that as an example. When in total distress, reduce to the prostitute. Even at our passing away, the Lord will remind us that we still have a lot of work to do in helping that one out in the cold who is far less than us. Not just her, but that great burden within her leaving her distracted as a weaker vessel as a result.

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    The free market could take care of rating every single one of those occupations,even more so now with the internet.

    All 50 States license barbers,yet it is perfectly legal for your mom to stick a bowl on your head and cut off whatever sticks out.
    Yep and licensing keeps the competition down.
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    This bullshit happens because people are too dam stupid to stop and think long enough to figure out it IS bullshit. That, and the ones benefiting from this crap help perpetuat the lie along with the bureaucrats that leech on.
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    Someone is not thinking about the children.
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    Even giving my lady a back massage is illegal in my city without a license.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoluntaryAmerican View Post
    Even giving my lady a back massage is illegal in my city without a license.
    I'm an outlaw. What does she look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I'm an outlaw. What does she look like?
    Do you do it under the table?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Do you do it under the table?
    Depends on her preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I'm an outlaw. What does she look like?
    I tease her she's like if Amanda Palmer and Ayn Rand had a baby.
    "We do have some differences and our approaches will be different, but that makes him his own person. I mean why should he [Rand] be a clone and do everything and think just exactly as I have. I think it's an opportunity to be independent minded. We are about 99% [the same on issues]." Ron Paul

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    They claim licensing is for safety and quality purposes.

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    The Institute for Justice (the law firm that represented the Mom & Pop tax preparers that won their lawsuit against the IRS) released a study that addresses the issue of whether or not you should need the government's permission to work. It includes a video clip, but the findings from the study you will find rather intriguing.

    https://www.ij.org/licensetowork

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleutheros View Post
    The Institute for Justice (the law firm that represented the Mom & Pop tax preparers that won their lawsuit against the IRS) released a study that addresses the issue of whether or not you should need the government's permission to work. It includes a video clip, but the findings from the study you will find rather intriguing.

    https://www.ij.org/licensetowork
    Thank you. +rep

    From link:

    An “occupational license” is, put simply, government permission to work in a particular field. To earn the license, an aspiring worker must clear various hurdles, such as earning a certain amount of education or training or passing an exam. In the 1950s, only one in 20 U.S. workers needed the government’s permission to pursue their chosen occupation. Today, that figure stands at almost one in three................These inconsistencies may reflect not the relative public health and safety risks of occupations but instead the lobbying prowess of practitioners in securing laws to shut out competition.
    Good stuff at link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad cow View Post
    The free market could take care of rating every single one of those occupations,even more so now with the internet.

    All 50 States license barbers,yet it is perfectly legal for your mom to stick a bowl on your head and cut off whatever sticks out.
    Things like Underwriters Laboratories, Angieslist, ConsumerReports, Amazon's rating process, ratings and reviews on all sorts of websites, etc. The market is trying to come through.

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    A government license is also a sword of damocles hanging over the head of every licensee,whether they had to clear any hurdles or not,even if they were forced to get their license or permit against their will.

    Revocation is a massive threat to somebody that needs that license to earn a living and it is a powerful weapon of State control.

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    Remember that woman that was FORCED to get a cosmologist license to braid hair? That meant going to cosmetology school. Hair braiding was not even part of the curriculum.

    Or the woman that left her child with her next door neighbor for an hour a day so she could go to work? (bus came an hour after she left or before she got home). The state came in and said the neighbor had to get licensed as a day care.

    Or that soup kitchen in TX that got shut down, saying they needed stainless steel everything and needed a licensed food safety supervisor? Two years of schooling to stand around and make sure people washed their hands and washed down counters...

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    Government police do not protect ... they control.
    Regulations do not regulate ... they protect the status quo.
    Government banks do not distribute money based on effort ... it is gifted to close friends ... and some of it trickles down.

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    If I go change a light switch on someone's house without getting the states permission, the city's permission, and the inspector's approval.... I can face big penalties.

    The total cost to enter the electrical field in my area is well in the thousands. And that doesn't include a truck/material/tools. The city is in bed with a couple companies, and they are favored. Anyone else has to cut through the beauracratic red tape. Its really tough to get through. I am willing to do work for less than what the big companies charge, simply because I don't have the overhead and can still make a decent living by charging a fair price.

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    So, it's basically welfare for tech schools, and 'preferred businesses'. This all adds cost to the colleges, since they know they have a forced enrollment, and to the rent or housing price, since the landlord/real estate co. has to pass those costs on to the new tenants. Meanwhile, people sleep on the streets. Were it not for these regulations, they'd find rent much cheaper, wouldn't they? Course we're not supposed to figure that out, are we?

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    You know what would be fun?
    To get a voting bloc on the county/city council. All agree to new zoning to allow trailers in wealthy neighborhoods. The housing prices would take a nosedive!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This bullshit happens because people are too dam stupid to stop and think long enough to figure out it IS bullshit. That, and the ones benefiting from this crap help perpetuat the lie along with the bureaucrats that leech on.
    One of the reasons this happens is that the system has a built-in bias towards special interest legislation. Say, for example, there are 1000 beekeepers in your state. It is in the interest of those beekeepers to take the time and spend the money to form an association and hire a lobbyist to watch what government is doing on bee-related issues and to push legislation that protects existing beekeepers from competition. The result is that everyone in the state pays more for bee products. But that additional cost is spread thinly. While each beekeeper may benefit by many thousands of dollars annually from having competition limited, the average person only pays a few cents more. While it makes economic sense for the special interest to organize, monitor, lobby, and make strategic campaign contributions, it is not economically rational for the consumer to even make the effort to know what bee-related legislation is being considered, let alone make an effort to shape it.

    This is a "public choice" analysis of licensing. The recently deceased economist James Buchanan won the Nobel prize for his work in this area. Interesting stuff. It makes an irrefutable case for why democracy always fails.
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    A license to strip? Moorhead proposal is laid bare (Minnesota)

    Moorhead is expected to pass ordinance requiring adult entertainers to be licensed.

    http://www.startribune.com/local/188449301.html?refer=y
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    how are they tested? Pole dance at the government pole dancing center?
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    how are they tested? Pole dance at the government pole dancing center?
    Probably just answer some stupid questions, and pay the fee, which is all they're after anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAllen View Post
    You know what would be fun?
    To get a voting bloc on the county/city council. All agree to new zoning to allow trailers in wealthy neighborhoods. The housing prices would take a nosedive!!!
    Nah Zoning is just another type of government bullshit. In zonings case it the government tells you what you can do or build on your property and how your allowed to do it.

    The cost to comply with zoning regulations along with other regulations simply drives many people away from developing or using their land. If they do lets say open a business or build apartments theyll just pass the extra cost over to the consumer thus increasing prices. This is a bigger problem in inner cities.





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