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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I move to repeal all laws that prohibit disemboweling of lawyers..

    Assholes act in their nature. It is "our" legal system that cuts them wide berth unto carte blanche.

    Lawyers share this with Cops: That so many WICKED ones pervert the profession...WITHOUT their "distinguished colleagues" eradicating the bullshit like the malignant cancer that it is...makes it kinda hard to argue that there are any GOOD ones.
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    Shocked hearing this, I am. SHOCKED!

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    That's funny.

    Yet when I ran for school board here in good ol' Charlotte, NC, the education writer in her "blog" on the local newspaper's website all but called me a dangerous right-wing extremist with views which border on white supremacy. That, because I wrote an on-line comment critical of a city councilman who strong-armed a private hotel into cancelling a meeting of a "white hate group". It had nothing to do with wanting the trash here; it had everything to do with the interference of a private contract and free speech. She also neglected to mention that I defended the local NAACP's leader for a MLK day school walkout, because the idiots on the school board okayed a Federal Holiday for a makeup day.

    I realize that for that time I was a "public figure" and was subject to more scruntiny, BUT, it is perfectly okay to lie about and trash a conservative or a libertarian.
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    "bleached hams" is hilarious. I have no problem with skin color of any kind but that just sounds soooo nerdy that I can't help laughing at it
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    New First Amendment:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances, unless any of these activities hurts someone's feelings or offends anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    A Nation of Pussies.
    And rats.
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    at their deeds. But I have no love for great tyranny
    for its deeds are very far from my eyes. -Archilochus

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    I'm surprised Homeland Security did not intervene.

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    http://thefire.org/article/15349.html


    Victory: Montclair State Rescinds Suspension of Student for Social Media Comments

    January 18, 2013

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    NEWARK, N.J., January 18, 2013—Montclair State University has rescinded its suspension of student Joseph Aziz for violating an unconstitutional gag order that the university imposed on him after he made comments on social media. University President Susan A. Cole revoked the semester-long suspension in a letter to Aziz yesterday evening, three days after the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) exposed Montclair State's punishment to the public.

    "While Montclair State never should have issued its unconstitutional gag order in the first place, we commend President Cole for acting swiftly to end the situation once it became public," said FIRE Senior Vice President Robert Shibley. "Since this unwarranted suspension prevented Mr. Aziz from attending any classes, we expect that Montclair State will make accommodations to ensure that he can get into the classes he needs as soon as possible. We also expect that the university will make sure that this unjust punishment does not appear on his records."

    Aziz's ordeal stemmed from comments he made to a YouTube video regarding the weight of a male and female student with whom he disagreed politically. In response, Montclair State issued an order prohibiting Aziz from having any contact with the female student and also unlawfully barred Aziz from making "any social media" comments about her. While Aziz did not contact the student after the order was issued, he later posted a number of comments complaining about the incident, the student, and the gag order on the wall of a private Facebook group to which she did not have access. Among other statements, Aziz joked about escaping the student's "tyrannical ham lock." This was apparently a reference to the fact that the gag order was issued in response to his earlier comment that the individual's legs resembled "bleached hams."

    Montclair State was informed of the comments and, at a campus judicial hearing, cleared Aziz of charges of harassment and disruptive conduct but found him guilty of violating the gag order. He was suspended for the spring 2013 semester, barred from campus under threat of arrest, and required to complete two educational "modules."

    Aziz came to FIRE for help. FIRE wrote to President Cole on January 4, 2013, pointing out that the gag order and subsequent punishment represented a serious violation of Aziz's First Amendment rights. Receiving no response, FIRE took the case public on Monday. Yesterday evening, Aziz received Cole's letter rescinding his punishment. In the letter, Cole wrote that because Montclair had found in December that Aziz had not violated any rules regarding harassment or disruptive conduct, the no-contact order he was punished for violating—which included the unconstitutional gag order at the center of the university's case—should have been lifted. Cole revoked Aziz's punishment and permitted him to return to class, effective immediately.

    "Montclair State briefly tried to justify its decision by appealing to New Jersey's anti-bullying law, but Aziz's comments did not constitute bullying under the law's definition of the term. Even if they had, Aziz's speech still would have been protected by the First Amendment, which supersedes state law," said FIRE's Shibley. "While Montclair State recognized its error this time, several of the university's policies could still be used to silence student speech in the future. FIRE would be pleased to work with President Cole to revise those policies to comply with the First Amendment, by which all public universities are legally and morally bound."

    FIRE is a nonprofit educational foundation that unites civil rights and civil liberties leaders, scholars, journalists, and public intellectuals from across the political and ideological spectrum on behalf of individual rights, due process, freedom of expression, academic freedom, and rights of conscience at our nation's colleges and universities. FIRE's efforts to preserve liberty on campuses across America can be viewed at thefire.org.

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