How real conspiracies are exposed

[jmdrake]

I didn't mean this story. I mean why can't they do it with newtown? Spend the time and resources to do what deadspin did to Manti and expose the newtown story for all to see. You do that and no one can question you. Just like no one is questioning the deadspin story.

But that kind of digging takes months and time and resources - you can't just pop a youtube video up two hours later and claim that people didn't cry enough.

Specifically which Alex Jones "Newtown" story are you referring to? Link please. I have seen stories from other sources posted on Infowars pointing out facts like there was a drill going on at a nearby school around the same time.

http://www.infowars.com/sandy-hook-s...lag-operation/

I do know near where I live there was some years ago such a mock drill where the students weren't told what was going on and were literally scared so bad they wet their pants. Could such a drill be a cover for something else? Who knows?

More than two people are involved in the Manti story.

Well you're the expert on conspiracies that don't matter.

A lot of things are afoot in the US government. But I'd want to see more than people not crying enough before I accuse them of lying and being actors when it is wholly possible those people just lost their kids. When people just lost their kids lives I'd like to be 100% sure before I open them up to harassment.

Again, link to the specific Alex Jones story. And again, what specific U.S. government conspiracy have you been willing to accept as at least plausible? And I don't mean something that everyone here accepts like the fed.

[jmdrake]

Show me the proof that 2 or more people were involved cos as far as I am concerned, the only thing we know for sure is that there is no girl friend. Everything else is CT style conjecture.

Good point. BlackTerrel where's your proof of conspiracy? Who are the other people involved? Name names and show your proof.

[juleswin]

The Tuiasosopo family as well, as well as a young female who is still not identified.

Point is it took respected journalists and investigators three months to blow this thing open with enough information and facts that no one could dispute it.

It took the Jones crew a couple hours because people didn't cry enough.

What if people suffered the worse experience any parent could ever have and they are then harassed and called names and Alex Jones is wrong? What then?

Again, all the state needs to do to squash the CT is for them to release the video tapes. But just like the birth certificate, the more time that is wasted the less likely the skeptics will believe it. One more thing with the birth certificate, Obama knew exactly what the birthers (one CT group am not part of) were asking for but he "withheld" this and continued showing the short form. He fueled the birther conspiracy for political gain and sure did he gain from it

[Danke]

Again, all the state needs to do to squash the CT is for them to release the video tapes. But just like the birth certificate, the more time that is wasted the less likely the skeptics will believe it. One more thing with the birth certificate, Obama knew exactly what the birthers (one CT group am not part of) were asking for but he "withheld" this and continued showing the short form. He fueled the birther conspiracy for political gain and sure did he gain from it

I'd still like to see his college transcripts.

[jmdrake]

The Tuiasosopo family as well, as well as a young female who is still not identified.

You're blaming some girl that hasn't even been identified as part of the conspiracy? How do you know she isn't just an unknowing victim who's picture got grabbed off of Flickr? You heartless conspiracy bastard!

[idiom]

If you "deny" looking into the money man of a crime, that is by fucking definition a cover up. It matters not why the "denial" is done.

Thats not the denial. The denial is of reality. Its not like Congress doesn't understand that Saudis fund terror, or that America can't sustain deficits, it is that Congress *Must* not understand it. There jobs depend on them not understanding it.

If Congress started acting competently then they would be voted out and replaced with politicians who agreed with the publics fantasy that there is a free lunch and that America can do no wrong.

A cover-up would be investigating the money men and 'discovering alternate facts'. They don't even bother to hide it. It just gets dismissed as immaterial.

[jmdrake]

Thats not the denial. The denial is of reality. Its not like Congress doesn't understand that Saudis fund terror, or that America can't sustain deficits, it is that Congress *Must* not understand it. There jobs depend on them not understanding it.

If Congress started acting competently then they would be voted out and replaced with politicians who agreed with the publics fantasy that there is a free lunch and that America can do no wrong.

A cover-up would be investigating the money men and 'discovering alternate facts'. They don't even bother to hide it. It just gets dismissed as immaterial.

The "public's fantasy" is shaped by the media. The media didn't have to act like there was nothing to see. Or did they? (Google Operation Mocking Bird. Another "conspiracy theory").

[idiom]

The "public's fantasy" is shaped by the media. The media didn't have to act like there was nothing to see. Or did they? (Google Operation Mocking Bird. Another "conspiracy theory").

The way CNN America reports is totally different from the way CNN International reports. American news media projects a reality bubble. Actually it projects several different ones simultaneously. Is this because American audiences reject reality or because the oligarchy that owns the media does? There is certainly documented evidence that the military and administration manipulate media and discussion boards. That is different to direct control.

Americans have access to CNN International, the BBC, Al Jazzera and others. How many watch these sources?

American largely love their alternate reality. They eat up the red vs blue false political confrontations. Maybe its voluntary, maybe it coercive. Maybe its the flouride.

[Petar]

The way CNN America reports is totally different from the way CNN International reports. American news media projects a reality bubble. Actually it projects several different ones simultaneously. Is this because American audiences reject reality or because the oligarchy that owns the media does? There is certainly documented evidence that the military and administration manipulate media and discussion boards. That is different to direct control.

Americans have access to CNN International, the BBC, Al Jazzera and others. How many watch these sources?

American largely love their alternate reality. They eat up the red vs blue false political confrontations. Maybe its voluntary, maybe it coercive. Maybe its the flouride.

Maybe it's the kiwi juice.

[Anti Federalist]

Why can't Alex Jones do what deadspin did? Research it. Dig deep. Find the actors involved. Prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

No one could read that deadspin article and still believe the original story. Why can't the infowars crew do the same?

They have, a number of times, the MIAC document comes right to mind.