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    http://news.yahoo.com/obamas-23-exec...171540897.html

    Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions

    Today, the President is announcing that he and the Administration will:

    1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

    2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

    3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

    4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

    5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

    6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

    7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

    8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

    9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

    10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

    11. Nominate an ATF director.

    12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

    13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

    14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

    15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

    16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

    17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities. 18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

    19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

    20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

    21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

    22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

    23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
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    thanks for starting this thread. back to the task at hand while we figure out what the hell happened to RPFs

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    Clearly these executive orders will prevent more gun massacres. I feel blessed we have such an intelligent and quick acting president. After all, we wouldn't want those tax cattle he prodded up on stage with him to die before giving milk.

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    To add, he also wants to introduce a bill that would ban assault weapons and limit magazine capacity to 10 rounds. I have no information as to whether a grandfather clause would be incorporated.
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    The reason we have an evil, immoral empire is that it is populated by evil, immoral peons. The State isn't a faceless monster...it is composed of all our petty, ignorant, self-righteous and self-absorbed neighbors.

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    Well, they don't seem to be as bad as they could have been. He hasn't banned any weapons or anything dramatic like that, or even really made any new fiat laws here as far as I can tell. Numbers 3 and 4 come closest to making new law.

    I don't understand the background check stuff.

    Not trying to be pro-Obama or minimize this dictatorial move, that's just how I read it. Am I missing things (I'm sure I am)? Should I be more alarmed than I am?
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    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    Well, they don't seem to be as bad as they could have been. He hasn't banned any weapons or anything dramatic like that, or even really made any new fiat laws here as far as I can tell. Numbers 3 and 4 come closest to making new law.

    I don't understand the background check stuff.

    Not trying to be pro-Obama or minimize this dictatorial move, that's just how I read it. Am I missing things (I'm sure I am)? Should I be more alarmed than I am?
    yes and yes.

    do you know how many people are currently on - or have ever been perscribed - mind altering drugs in this country? ritalin, prozac, aderol zoloft, ambien, etc. etc. all these people are now subject to prohibition from owning firearms.

    it also creates more snitches for the feds (doctors)

    it also allows the feds to snoop into your medical records whenever they want

    provides for more pigs aka cops

    it is pretty bad. not confiscation bad, but they found out from the public response that they were awakening a sleeping giant. they backed off and stayed true to their incremental approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    Well, they don't seem to be as bad as they could have been. He hasn't banned any weapons or anything dramatic like that, or even really made any new fiat laws here as far as I can tell. Numbers 3 and 4 come closest to making new law.

    I don't understand the background check stuff.

    Not trying to be pro-Obama or minimize this dictatorial move, that's just how I read it. Am I missing things (I'm sure I am)? Should I be more alarmed than I am?
    Talked to a guy tonight about buying 2 guns,we're meeting saturday.Over 4/5ths of my gun purchases have been like this,no paperwork or record,just a cash deal,like buying a used lamp or TV.
    The only guns I own that involved a 4473 form were guns where the desire was so great I just had to have them right then and had my resolve been stronger,there would be no record of me ever buying or owning a gun.
    This is what Obama wants to outlaw.

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    Mental health? That is BS! They will just label everyone that is known to oppose them a nut and say they can't legally buy a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    Mental health? That is BS! They will just label everyone that is known to oppose them a nut and say they can't legally buy a gun.
    I understand the new DM is going to have so many new 'personality disorders' that anyone with a personality at all will be in it. That dovetails nicely with wanting an excuse to ban anyone they feel like banning.
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    16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

    Wow, didn't this idea get slapped down by the courts years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger29860 View Post
    16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

    Wow, didn't this idea get slapped down by the courts years ago?
    I know its not under oath but I still intend to plead the 5th

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    24. Direct Eric Holder to stop running guns to Mexico

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    You're obviously crazy/paranoid if you want to own a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger29860 View Post
    16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

    Wow, didn't this idea get slapped down by the courts years ago?
    I predict lots of canoes full of guns tipping over in the near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    I understand the new DM is going to have so many new 'personality disorders' that anyone with a personality at all will be in it. That dovetails nicely with wanting an excuse to ban anyone they feel like banning.
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    Here seems to be the comprehensive list:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa..._time_full.pdf

    Number four: 4: Improving Mental Health Services.

    Basically, they are saying that teachers are now deciding factors when it comes to recognizing mental illness.

    If they cannot indoctrinate liberty out of our youth then they will just declare the individualist to have a mental illness.
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    . Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

    uh... huh???



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    uh... huh???
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    Quote Originally Posted by V3n View Post
    Video games.
    US foreign policy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    Mental health? That is BS! They will just label everyone that is known to oppose them a nut and say they can't legally buy a gun.
    You're on the right track:

    Psychiatry goes insane: Every human emotion now classified as a mental disorder in new psychiatric manual DSM-5


    (NaturalNews) The industry of modern psychiatry has officially gone insane. Virtually every emotion experienced by a human being -- sadness, grief, anxiety, frustration, impatience, excitement -- is now being classified as a "mental disorder" demanding chemical treatment (with prescription medications, of course).

    The new, upcoming DSM-5 "psychiatry bible," expected to be released in a few months, has transformed itself from a medical reference manual to a testament to the insanity of the industry itself.

    "Mental disorders" named in the DSM-5 include "General Anxiety Disorder" or GAD for short. GAD can be diagnosed in a person who feels a little anxious doing something like, say, talking to a psychiatrist. Thus, the mere act of a psychiatrist engaging in the possibility of making a diagnoses causes the "symptoms" of that diagnoses to magically appear.

    This is called quack science and circular reasoning, yet it's indicative of the entire industry of psychiatry which has become such a laughing stock among scientific circles that even the science skeptics are starting to turn their backs in disgust. Psychiatry is no more "scientific" than astrology or palm reading, yet its practitioners call themselves "doctors" of psychiatry in order to try to make quackery sound credible.

    The DSM is now larger than ever, and it includes disorders such as "Obedience Defiance Disorder" (ODD), defined as refusing to lick boots and follow false authority. Rapists who feel sexual arousal during their raping activities are given the excuse that they have "Paraphilic coercive disorder" and therefore are not responsible for their actions. (But they will need medication, of course!)

    You can also get diagnosed with "Hoarding Disorder" if you happen to stockpile food, water and ammunition, among other things. Yep, being prepared for possible natural disasters now makes you a mental patient in the eyes of modern psychiatry (and the government, too).

    Former DSM chairperson apologizes for creating "false epidemics"

    Allen Frances chaired the DSM-IV that was released in 1994. He now admits it was a huge mistake that has resulted in the mass overdiagnosis of people who are actually quite normal. The DSM-IV "...inadvertently contributed to three false epidemics -- attention deficit disorder, autism and childhood bipolar disorder," writes Allen in an LA Times opinion piece.

    He goes on to say:

    The first draft of the next edition of the DSM ... is filled with suggestions that would multiply our mistakes and extend the reach of psychiatry dramatically deeper into the ever-shrinking domain of the normal. This wholesale medical imperialization of normality could potentially create tens of millions of innocent bystanders who would be mislabeled as having a mental disorder. The pharmaceutical industry would have a field day -- despite the lack of solid evidence of any effective treatments for these newly proposed diagnoses.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038322_DS...#ixzz2IATKRZ3o...
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    According to the Anxiety and Depression Association of America:

    Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD)
    GAD affects 6.8 million adults, or 3.1% of the U.S. population.
    Women are twice as likely to be affected as men.

    What is Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD)?

    Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD) is a chronic disorder characterized by excessive, long-lasting anxiety and worry about nonspecific life events, objects, and situations. GAD sufferers often feel afraid and worry about health, money, family, work, or school, but they have trouble both identifying the specific fear and controlling the worries. Their fear is usually unrealistic or out of proportion with what may be expected in their situation. Sufferers expect failure and disaster to the point that it interferes with daily functions like work, school, social activities, and relationships.

    Prior to the revision of the DSM-5 psychiatry bible, I was always told that GAD is NOT a mental illness but rather an EMOTIONAL disorder.

    If the new gun control laws want to make it stricter for people who have mental disorders to own a gun, how much easier would it be to get more people to fall under this category than by revising something like generalized anxiety as a mental disorder???
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    I have hoarding disorder with regard to woodworking tools. I mean who in their right mind has four hollow augers? And books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    I have hoarding disorder with regard to woodworking tools. I mean who in their right mind has four hollow augers? And books.
    I have a pantry of foodstuffs. I'm already on the list. Lol.
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    I don't believe there should be any gun control laws... the Second Amendment makes it pretty clear. Psychos will always find ways of enacting carnage. Why should the law abiding be powerless to stop them when they do?
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    A pretty wide shotgun pattern. All over the place.

    Should be a lot of whacking at leaves and branches while leaving the Roots intact.

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    Seems that most of them don't really do anything- which is good I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger29860 View Post
    16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

    Wow, didn't this idea get slapped down by the courts years ago?
    becuse nobody has privacy anymore especially when the government re conterolled the internet.

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