This thread comes to mind. They hear Rand say pro-life and just shut down or give you the back alley abortion speech. It is frustrating because people say things like "You libertarians, of all people, should respect a woman's "liberty" to choose." You have a window of about ten seconds after that to come up with something good or they jest the liberty movement forever as illogical. As we've seen in how many debates, it is not the most logical answer that is deemed the best, it is usually the cleverest answer that everybody remembers, and picks. Clever wit and a plastic smile beats logic every time or Ron Paul would be our President. I do not look forward to the Maddow hoards trolling Rand hard for his "pro-life" views but I see it as an inevitability.