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    forbes.com/sites/lawrencehunter/2013/01/14/psychiatric-drugs-not-a-lack-of-gun-control-are-the-common-denominator-in-murderous-violence/
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/lawrence...rous-violence/

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    at the time of this posting, it was still in the Google Cache:



    The article above is still online for now:
    Anti-Depressants Often Found But Not Reported in Shootings
    By Glenn Gramigna

    Why did twenty year old Adam Lanza open fire on a helpless kindergarten class last week, killing twenty kids and six adults? Why has America been forced to endure a steady stream of such incidents over the past twenty years, from Columbine to Tucson, to Virginia Tech to Aurora?

    While the corporate media continues to explore certain answers to this question while avoiding others, many believe the real explanation begins with the sad experience of a certain Mrs. Kinkel in June of 1996. While on vacation in Costa Rica that year, she could often be heard bragging that, “The Prozac is working,” referring to the antidepressant her teenage son Kip had been put on by psychiatrists.

    Sometime later, a fifteen year old Kip used a 9mm Glock and a .22 caliber semi-automatic rifle to murder both his parents, before killing two and wounding twenty-four others at nearby Thurston High School.

    In fact, the link between the epidemic of mass murders over the past twenty years in the US and the widespread prescribing of antidepressants coinciding with this phenomenon has been widely written about. Huffington Post founder Arianna Huffington and Congressman Dennis Kucinich have both been pioneers in bringing the issue to the attention of the public.

    A study done by Cardiff University in Wales concluded that, “… school shootings are almost always carried out by children who are taking antidepressants. We know that (these drugs) cause children to disconnect from reality. When you combine this with a propensity for violence, you create a dangerous recipe for school shootings and other adolescent violence.”

    So why haven't we heard anything about these issues during the mainstream media's wall-to-wall coverage of the Newtown tragedy?

    Some think this may have to do with the pharmaceutical industry's propensity for non-stop TV advertising campaigns, spending between $2.4 billion and $3.1 billion annually in the last five years. Since our multi-million dollar check from Big Pharma has apparently been lost in the mail, we are free to tell you the truth...The only problem is where to start.

    The Chicago Tribune reported that Cho Seung Hui, who shot and killed thirty-two fellow students at Virginia Tech, was on antidepressants at the time of his killing spree. New River Community Services on the campus kept re-filling his prescriptions over and over again.

    James Holmes, the Batman shooter, who murdered twelve and wounded thirty-eight in an Aurora, Colorado movie theater earlier this year was being treated by a team of psychiatrists for a condition called “dysphoric mania.” Holmes was known to be on antidepressants, though we don't know which ones.

    Before he started off on his deadly killing spree, Holmes mailed burnt currency to his University of Colorado psychiatrist.
    The medical records of the Columbine murderers are still sealed to this day.

    As for Lanza, we know he had been diagnosed with a “personality disorder,” a psychiatric term, the use of which makes it virtually certain that he was being treated by a psychiatrist. Treatment by a psychiatrist almost always includes being prescribed antidepressants and/or other psychiatric drugs.

    In any case, the drug industry kingpins have been less successful at covering up the antidepressant use of less well-known mass murderers.

    For example, when twenty-seven year old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five and wounded twenty-one in a Northern Illinois University auditorium, his girlfriend told reporters he had been taking Prozac, Xanax, and Ambien. When twenty-two year-old culinary student Matti Saari killed nine students and teachers in Finland, he was taking an SSRI and benzodiazapine.

    When sixteen-year-old Jeff Weise killed his grandparents and then went to school on the Red Lake, Minnesota Indian Reservation, killing seven and wounding seven more before killing himself, he was on Prozac.

    Fortunately, not everyone is in the pocket of the pharmaceutical industry and the psychiatric establishment, with which it works hand-in-hand.

    As Huffington has written: “We need to begin to ask questions about the harmful effects of antidepressants. The lives of our children could be riding on the answers.”
    http://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/...pressants.html
    What if discussion of the connection b/w SSRI's and the Shootings was being suppressed at the highest levels?
    Would that not be the scandal of the last 100 years? More?

    How many people are in danger because the Media has decided not to put this in the national discussion?
    Why are so many people willing to believe Big Pharma?

    Why do I have so many questions?
    Michael Moore on Shootings: Maybe it's the Drugs not the Guns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpinCRaAQOk



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    Most of the people taking anti-depressants, I believe, are women. Why aren't women shooting up schools?

    A study done by Cardiff University in Wales concluded that, “… school shootings are almost always carried out by children who are taking antidepressants. We know that (these drugs) cause children to disconnect from reality. When you combine this with a propensity for violence, you create a dangerous recipe for school shootings and other adolescent violence.”
    Ok, so what are the major societal consequences of women taking Prozac, beyond the obsession with The Kardashians and The Real Housewives? Obviously it is bad for their individual health.
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    Because free speech has been dead in america since 1913

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Most of the people taking anti-depressants, I believe, are women. Why aren't women shooting up schools?

    Maybe it has something to do with testosterone or lack thereof.

    If getting drunk results in an increased tendency to commit rape, and just as many women get drunk as men, why aren't there a lot of female rapists? Ha, silly comparison.
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    Big Pharma makes hundreds of billions a year and advertises with publications like Forbes to the tune of hundreds of millions per year. When a major client calls you up and suggests you pull a story that paints their business in a not so flattering light, you pull it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghengis86 View Post
    Big Pharma makes hundreds of billions a year and advertises with publications like Forbes to the tune of hundreds of millions per year. When a major client calls you up and suggests you pull a story that paints their business in a not so flattering light, you pull it.
    Kind of a flawed explanation of "Big Pharma." They also advertise at Reason.TV, and they worship that quack Thomas Szasz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pochy1776 View Post
    Kind of a flawed explanation of "Big Pharma." They also advertise at Reason.TV, and they worship that quack Thomas Szasz.
    ??? Just an explanation of the mechanism. Big dick clients can make the service provider do things they otherwise wouldn't or don't prefer to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghengis86 View Post
    Big Pharma makes hundreds of billions a year and advertises with publications like Forbes to the tune of hundreds of millions per year. When a major client calls you up and suggests you pull a story that paints their business in a not so flattering light, you pull it.
    So we're all in danger because cnnfoxmsnbcabcnbccbs are addicted to drug money.

    In the middle of a "drug war".

    I'm no lawyer but there must be some way to charge criminal conduct in a situation like this. This entire clusterfark gets more smelly every single day.

    I refuse to sit back and let this nonsense go on. This is absolutely outrageous. Meanwhile, how many suicide pills did big pharma get their little sales people/drug pushers to shove down children's throats today? How many will become shooters in a few years? Holy Crap this nation is F&*KED
    Michael Moore on Shootings: Maybe it's the Drugs not the Guns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpinCRaAQOk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace Piper View Post
    So we're all in danger because cnnfoxmsnbcabcnbccbs are addicted to drug money.

    In the middle of a "drug war".

    I'm no lawyer but there must be some way to charge criminal conduct in a situation like this. This entire clusterfark gets more smelly every single day.

    I refuse to sit back and let this nonsense go on. This is absolutely outrageous. Meanwhile, how many suicide pills did big pharma get their little sales people/drug pushers to shove down children's throats today? How many will become shooters in a few years? Holy Crap this nation is F&*KED
    Theres also big ag, big science and big politics. Money is universal.

    Did you take chemistry in school? Maybe you should apply for a Pharm D education. Better yet become an educated expert on pharmacology and defeat them at their own game. Scientist don;t listen to laymen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Most of the people taking anti-depressants, I believe, are women. Why aren't women shooting up schools?
    Source?

    And there have been women on drugs doing mayhem. I don't have time right now to search but I'll try to find instances later and post them. IIRC it's in here-.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

    or maybe here: http://ssristories.com/index.php
    Michael Moore on Shootings: Maybe it's the Drugs not the Guns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpinCRaAQOk

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