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    Exclamation NYC - Bloomberg bans city hospitals from dispensing painkillers.

    In chronic pain and misery?

    "Too bad, suffer motherfucker, and die." - Reichsgauleiter Bloomberg

    Apperantly he was able to do this by executive fiat, something we all should be getting used to.

    Because, you see, being angry and furious and acting like just one tenth of the men that, 200 years ago would have had the entrails of these petty tyrants wound around pitchforks like so much lingiuni, see, that's not "reasonable", it's not "civilized" it "makes us look bad" and has no place in proper debate.

    New Victims In The War On Painkillers

    By Radley Balko

    Posted: 01/11/2013 8:54 am EST | Updated: 01/11/2013 10:09 am EST

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    Last year I wrote a three-part series for Huffington Post that asked some questions about the latest panic over opioid painkillers, and its effect on pain patients, doctors, and medical treatment. I received a deluge of email from people in pain who were desperately seeking treatment. In fact I'm still getting those emails. I got one this morning.

    Before that series ran, after increasing pressure form the DEA, Purdue Pharma, maker of the most popular opioid Oxycontin, had already switched the drug's formula to make it much more difficult to abuse. As Maia Szalavitz pointed out last summer at Time, the effects were dramatic: "OxyContin went from being the primary drug of abuse for 36% of prescription-drug misusers to just 13% about 21 months later." There were also some predictable negative consequences, like sending addicts back to street drugs like heroin. But if the new formula at least stopped the abuse of prescription painkillers, perhaps that might at least ease the pressure from politicians and law enforcement on pain patients and pain specialists.

    But that hasn't happened either. In fact, it seems to have gotten quite a bit worse. From The New York Times:

    Some of the most common and most powerful prescription painkillers on the market will be restricted sharply in the emergency rooms at New York City's 11 public hospitals, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Thursday in an effort to crack down on what he called a citywide and national epidemic of prescription drug abuse.

    Under the new city policy, most public hospital patients will no longer be able to get more than three days' worth of narcotic painkillers like Vicodin and Percocet. Long-acting painkillers, including OxyContin, a familiar remedy for chronic backache and arthritis, as well as Fentanyl patches and methadone, will not be dispensed at all. And lost, stolen or destroyed prescriptions will not be refilled.

    City officials said the policy was aimed at reducing the growing dependency on painkillers and preventing excess amounts of drugs from being taken out of medicine chests and sold on the street or abused by teenagers and others who want to get high.

    "Abuse of prescription painkillers in our city has increased alarmingly," Mr. Bloomberg said in announcing the new policy at Elmhurst Hospital Center, a public hospital in Queens.
    So we now have a politician directly dictating medical policy to doctors at city hospitals.

    Some of us have been raising red flags about Bloomberg's ban on smoking in privately-owned bars and restaurants, his ban on trans-fats, the farcical ban on large soda sizes, and his other paternalistic policies for years now. This is what happens when government decides it should have the power to protect us from ourselves. Let's be clear, here. This policy is going to cause needless suffering. People who genuinely, legitimately need pain medication aren't going to be able to get it. And guess what? Addicts and thrill-seeking teenagers will find other ways to get high.

    Since the announcement, I've seen some reaction on the Internet expressing hope that Blooomberg is afflicted with some chronic pain condition, so he'll be able to feel firsthand the suffering he's causing with this policy. I wouldn't go that far, though I understand the sentiment.

    (I'll not be nearly so accomodating Radley. - AF)

    But that also misses an important component of this policy: It only applies to the city's public hospitals. Which means it will largely be poor people who are forced to suffer pain that can easily be treated. If Bloomberg's ever afflicted with long-term, chronic pain, he'll certainly get all the medication he needs to be comfortable.

    One telltale sign that we've entered a bona-fide drug war hysteria is when government officials start treating people suspected of abusing whatever drug is causing the latest mass case of the vapors not as human beings--as citizens with rights--but as an enemy. Two stories that made headlines in the last week suggest that we're in a full-blown painkiller panic.

    First in Utah:

    A man says Vernal police disrupted an intimate moment of mourning with his deceased wife of 58 years when they searched his house for her prescription medication without a warrant within minutes of her death.

    Barbara Alice Mahaffey died of colon cancer in her bedroom last May. Ben D. Mahaffey, 80, said he was distraught and trying to make sure his wife's body would be taken to the funeral home with dignity, when he says officers insisted he help them look for the drugs.

    "I was holding her hand saying goodbye when all the intrusion happened," he told the Deseret News.

    Barbara Mahaffey died at 12:35 a.m. with Mahaffey, a Navy medic in the Korean War, and his friend, an EMT, at her side. In addition to police, a mortician and a hospice worker arrived at the home about 12:45 a.m., Mahaffey said. He said he doesn't know how police came to be there.

    "I was indignant to think you can't even have a private moment. All these people were there and they're not concerned about her or me. They're concerned about the damn drugs. Isn't that something?" Mahaffey said.

    Mahaffey said he was treated as if he were going to sell the painkillers, which included OxyContin, oxycodone and morphine, on the street.
    Note the utter lack of compassion, the inability to see a grieving husband as anything other than a potential drug dealer.

    (Or Jew, or cossack or intellectual or Hutu or any of the myriad other reasons that government agents have used when they butchered millions. Because we no longer are human to them, just vermin to be elminated. - AF)

    Note the priorities on display. The most important thing the cops had to do that day was get those drugs out of that house. Preventing someone from using Barbara Mahaffey's pills to get high, or preventing Ben Mahaffey from--God forbid--using pain medication not prescribed to him at some point in the future, was more important than giving a widower a last moment of dignity to say goodbye to his wife of 58 years.

    The other, even sadder story comes from Oklahoma.

    A Pauls Valley family is forced to deal with tragedy after a 33-year-old mother dies from a medical condition while being held at the Garvin County jail.

    The victim in this case is Jamie Lynn Russell.

    Jamie also used the last name of Fisher.

    Her death came just hours after she went to the hospital seeking help for severe abdominal pain.

    "Jamie was seeking help; she was in extreme pain," family friend Kemper Kimberlin said.

    Hospital staff reported Jamie wouldn't cooperate, in too much pain to even lie down, so employees asked a Pauls Valley police officer to assist.

    Unfortunately, when police found two prescription pills that didn't belong to Jamie, police took her to jail for drug possession.

    That's where Jamie sat for less than two hours before being found unresponsive.

    "There is nothing my staff in the jail could've done differently," Garvin County sheriff Larry Rhodes said.
    Well of course there is, Sheriff Rhodes. You could have exercised some discretion, and not thrown a clearly ill pregnant woman in jail over two pills..

    Russell died from a ruptured ectopic pregnancy. It seems fairly likely that had she not been carted off to jail, her condition could have been detected and treated. The sheriff added, "It's very regrettable for the family. My heart and prayers go out to them."

    Regrettable. I guess that's one way to describe what happened to Jamie Russell. Another might be collateral damage.



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    Thanks for the fucked up stories making me all pissed off. Dickhead
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    wtf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Thanks for the fucked up stories making me all pissed off. Dickhead
    I didn't even post the one about the pregnant woman who went to the hospital and was in such pain she couldn't lie down and the hospital called nearby police to help them manage her and they went through her purse, found two prescription pills that weren't hers, and took her to jail where she died.

    I didn't want to upset you any more.
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    Moar drug prohibition?

    I predict this will work about as well as the last half dozen attempts.
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    I've said it before, and i'll say it again. Bloomberg is intentionally doing this to his citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    I didn't even post the one about the pregnant woman who went to the hospital and was in such pain she couldn't lie down and the hospital called nearby police to help them manage her and they went through her purse, found two prescription pills that weren't hers, and took her to jail where she died.

    I didn't want to upset you any more.
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    I used to get a bad rap for giving money to people who other people thought were going to just go buy drugs or wine with it. I would just tell them, hey, maybe they need it to get by in this fucked up world.

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    Sounds like the mayor wants a kickback from the drug companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophy_of_Politics View Post
    I've said it before, and i'll say it again. Bloomberg is intentionally doing this to his citizens.
    What's his goal? To run everyone out of New York? Sure seems like it.

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    I went with my uncle to his appointment the other day. They have been saying he has prostate cancer, but it all started with him trying to pull a garden hose out of thatched grass, we thought it was a hernia.

    So, I asked the doctor why they wouldn't look at his problem with the pulled or stained muscles or whatever that he received while pulling on the hose, the doctor looked at me and said, "it's not important". I said, what about him halucinating from the ocycodone that he's been taking. The doctor said, "as long as he's comfortable, it's stage 4". That's when I realized it was real.

    Fuck Bloomberg and all those assholes that kill the life out of the living and the dying.
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    I have long hoped those pathetic liberal motherfuckers would die slow painful deaths for being too self-absorbed to vote these tyrants out.

    I love the way that only city hospitals are affected. The elite will still get comfort. And people will put up with it because it doesn't affect 99% of them.

    Sorry about your uncle, Clyde.
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    First we take the painkillers, then we take the guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I have long hoped those pathetic liberal motherfuckers would die slow painful deaths for being too self-absorbed to vote these tyrants out.

    I love the way that only city hospitals are affected. The elite will still get comfort. And people will put up with it because it doesn't affect 99% of them.

    Sorry about your uncle, Clyde.
    Omer's taking it pretty good. Come to find out, he knew about it years ago, but didn't tell me (my aunt told me the other day on the way back from her doctors appt). They have always lived apart from the family except for me (they don't have kids), I don't know why, exactly. But they moved from CA to IN and bought my old place when I started building my new home a few years ago. I guess he wanted someone to take care of his wife. I can't blame him, but I wish he had told me sooner, it would be easier, maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Thanks for the fucked up stories making me all pissed off. Dickhead
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    Omer's taking it pretty good. Come to find out, he knew about it years ago, but didn't tell me (my aunt told me the other day on the way back from her doctors appt). They have always lived apart from the family except for me (they don't have kids), I don't know why, exactly. But they moved from CA to IN and bought my old place when I started building my new home a few years ago. I guess he wanted someone to take care of his wife. I can't blame him, but I wish he had told me sooner, it would be easier, maybe.
    I'm sorry, Clyde.

    I'm glad you are there for them, but it is tough on you. I do think it is easier if you have longer to come to terms with it, but he probably didn't want to be 'the guy with cancer' until he had to be.

    We've had quite a bit of it in one branch of our family.
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    Not too smart to live in NY these days. Cant say i feel bad for them since they love it so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    I'm sorry, Clyde.

    I'm glad you are there for them, but it is tough on you. I do think it is easier if you have longer to come to terms with it, but he probably didn't want to be 'the guy with cancer' until he had to be.

    We've had quite a bit of it in one branch of our family.
    Don't be sorry. I will do what I have to do. It's good that I am self employed so I can put off stuff when I need to. I just have to use my time better. My feelings won't change the outcome, but it could change me. I'm still learning.

    edit: But you are probably right, he didn't want to be the "one with cancer".
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    I didn't even post the one about the pregnant woman who went to the hospital and was in such pain she couldn't lie down and the hospital called nearby police to help them manage her and they went through her purse, found two prescription pills that weren't hers, and took her to jail where she died.

    I didn't want to upset you any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    I went with my uncle to his appointment the other day. They have been saying he has prostate cancer, but it all started with him trying to pull a garden hose out of thatched grass, we thought it was a hernia.

    So, I asked the doctor why they wouldn't look at his problem with the pulled or stained muscles or whatever that he received while pulling on the hose, the doctor looked at me and said, "it's not important". I said, what about him halucinating from the ocycodone that he's been taking. The doctor said, "as long as he's comfortable, it's stage 4". That's when I realized it was real.

    Fuck Bloomberg and all those assholes that kill the life out of the living and the dying.
    Well yes, fuck Bloomberg and his ilk. But equally I say fuck us because they keep going and we keep tolerating.

    Why has nobody aired Bloomie out? I haven't done it. You haven't. Why? Fear. We use the excuse of "decency" and "due process" and so forth to justify doing nothing of substance. There is very little statistical possibility of getting the population of this nation on the same page to dispense with these people politically. It simply is NOT going to happen, short of some extraordinary circumstance arising.

    The truth be told, murdering such people who destroy us is eminently moral. Morality does, in fact, demand it. And yet, here we sit, idly watching... the best we can get up is armchair outrage. I will not declare this truth as evidence of our doom, but it does point in that direction with rather vigorous suggestion.

    We cannot vote them out because of the current Gaussian distribution - one that is steadily evolving in the wrong direction, I will add. They will not hear out appeals. In fact, they accelerate their depredation of our rights, our health, our prosperity, out future. And we do nothing.

    When viewed with some broader vision, it becomes difficult to avoid the implication that we are a suicidal bunch.

    But assuming we are not suicidal and given the rest, what avenues remain to us? What is left to do?

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    Easy there, Keith.
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    Bloombeg is a sick psychopathic control freak, hell bent on taking over as much power over the individual that is possible. Why on earth would a billionaire spend his time as mayor unless he had a egomaniac napoleon complex. Screw you bloomberg. The people are catching on to you and Warren Buffet's little games to end freedom for all individuals (except yourselves)

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    He's a fucking mobster. I hope he does a horrible death.
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    200 years ago would have had the entrails of these petty tyrants wound around pitchforks like so much lingiuni
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    I love living in NYC. Its easier, though, if you avoid reading the paper

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    Too bad the good old days are long gone - 'cause back then, the milk of the poppy was widely available in flower gardens...
    That NY tyrant must be especially evil to cause unnecessary human suffering (by preventing palliative treatment for the sick and dying).

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    Processed poppy milk will undoubtedly make a resounding come back in NY for chronic pain sufferers..

    Once again playing right into the public view of the horrors of "drugs"...

    Evil bastards!

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