Originally Posted by PatriotOne
Hmmmm, I wonder..
Hmmmm, I wonder..
argentinians and brits can do what they want. lets just stay out of it. whats the worse that can happen?
^^Not the same at all.
It would be like Cuba saying
we are taking Guantanamo back
and you saying,
let the US military stationed there have a vote
who they want to belong to.
It is a really strange case but both sides have a point.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklan...eignty_dispute
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Vernet
Vernet was owed money by the United Provinces government
and the settlement in the Falkland Islands was offered
in partial restitution of that debt.
In 1828, the United Provinces government granted Vernet
all of East Falkland including all its resources,
and exempted him from taxation
if a colony could be established within three years.
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in 1831 the USS Lexington raided the islands.
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I'd guess controlling the islands would expand fishing/oil/etc waters for Argentina, I mean why else would they want them?
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The UK fought Argentina all on their own in 1982. They were pushed off the island and then retook it. It was an amazingly successful military campaign. Funny thing was they were able to take the Falkland Islands back with HMS Hermes which was to be decommissioned shortly before the war.
The US, France and other nations provided support.
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Are there really people that want to remain British?
In any case, it takes a lot of courage to get out of the kitchen and dispute territory like that, even if she is completely wrong. Good for her.
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There will be no war.
The Falklands in 2013 are far more heavily and closely guarded by the British military than they were 31 years ago. In contrast Argentina is far weaker militarily than it was at the time. The technological gap between both countries has widened greatly since then.
Argentina's military has no power projection capabilities. They probably wouldn't win a war against Uruguay, whose population is less than 4 million. 30 years+ of technological advances have blessed Great Britain with satellite capabilities that would spot Argentine forces massing very much in advance. Argentina would not have the element of surprise it had in 1982.
Moreover, the Argentine economy is struggling yet again. Cristina Kirchner is a corrupt leftist and statist who is using state power as her predecessors did to plunder the nation's resources for her and her cronies' gain. You liberty lovers hate capital controls, eh? Well, Argentine banks now obligate Argentine citizens who travel abroad and use their credit cards in other nations to pay a percentage on all their transactions. And, the quantity of pesos they can exchange for USD is very limited. Yes, we who love sound money and follow Austrian economics know the USD is just a piece of paper, but in the Third World, the USD is still very much seen as a safe haven. Even in other nations in that area, like Brazil, whose economy is light-years ahead of Argentina's, wealthier Brazilians whose lifestyles are superior to the standards of living of many Americans often exchange their local currency holdings into USD. The Argentine people, barring the elite, are not doing all that well. Unemployment is high, and Kirchner and her government are widely disliked.
For her to launch an attempt to retake islands whose inhabitants are culturally, historically, and even racially British and who wish to remain an overseas British territory would be foolhardy, counterproductive, expensive, and it would earn her republiqueta of a country international scorn, even more than it did when her predecessors attacked. Outside of South America and perhaps Spain, the Argentine claim has no foreign support, and even if every country on Earth including the United States supported Argentina's sovereignty claim, Britain would never relinquish the islands, whether by negotiation or by force. The Brits are a proud people; they shed blood, spent money, and lost pilots, seamen, and ships while fighting Argentina in 1982. They would do it again - for pride, but also, because they firmly believe (and with very much just cause and historical claims) that the islands are legally and rightfully British.
Argentina will NEVER attack, and Argentina's flag will never fly over those small islands.
Nothing to see here. Move on now.
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There's a similar thing with Gibraltar. The Spainish claim it but "The Rock" is firmly British.
I think a better comparison would be if Spain suddenly threaten a claim Puerto Rico via force, when a plurality of Puerto Ricans just voiced their approval for US Statehood.
You don't think **** would hit the fan really fast then. Hard even for a libertarian to not justify that war.
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