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    Default The current economic recovery is a fraud

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    For those who would see recovery in current economic data, there are these facts to ponder.

    The first is that most of the decline in the unemployment rate has been a result not of more people working, but of more people leaving the labor force.

    In November, unemployment went down to 7.7 from 7.9 percent in October, the lowest unemployment rate since late 2008. But at the same time unemployment declined, so did labor force participation--which fell to 63.6 in November from 63.8 percent in October. Half a million Americans have left the labor market in recent months.

    Long term economic growth--and even growth in the short run--depends on an expanding labor force. Since January 2009, the labor force participation rate has declined by almost two percentage points.

    That's huge.

    That's three and a half million Americans who have given up looking for work. If the labor force participation rate were now at its January 2009 level, unemployment would be 10.7 percent. That's higher than unemployment was in 2009, when the recession was at its most severe.

    Moreover, more than 70 percent of new civilian jobs created in the United States in recent months are in government. Since June, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the economy has added about 847,000 jobs. About 621,000 of these are in local, state and federal government.

    Economic growth in the long run cannot be sustained by a declining labor force participation rate and more government jobs. The current recovery is a fraud, a deceit. There remain about four million fewer private sector jobs in the economy than there were in 2008.

    More Americans are worse off each month than the month before. The African American unemployment rate is 14.3 percent, up from 13.4 percent just a few months ago. The length of time that people remain unemployed is twice what is was in 2008. The number of Americans on food stamps continues its inexorable rise.

    Concerning food stamps, the most recent monthly data show that 47.7 million Americans use them, close to one in six Americans. About 30 percent of children under eighteen in the United States are on food stamps. Use of food stamps has continued to grow in recent months, up 600,000 between August and September 2012. Since 2009, spending on food stamps has approximately doubled.

    Real average hourly earnings are declining. These increased 1.7 percent nominally in the past year, but inflation was 2.2 percent. This means that, during this "recovery," real hourly earnings have declined about half a percent.

    Typically, coming out of a recession--particularly a sharp recession--recovery and employment are booming and buoyantly expansionary. This is certainly not the case today. Though many economists believe the rate of economic growth has sped up in recent months, this is very misleading. Rather, more adults than ever are not working and the length of time they are not working has become longer. Meanwhile, government has added jobs while the use of social services is increasing and real earnings are declining.

    This is not economic recovery. This is long term economic stagnation.

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    The result is war, poverty, fear, chaos, and hopelessness for most people with abundance for a few elite.
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    anyone using their 2 eyes knows it's a fraud. I don't have a 9-5 work schedule so I'm often out and about on odd hours. So many districts are like a ghost town. Stores with only the manager working, etc.
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    But but the globalists said that if we exported our manufacturing, imported more immigrants, and outsourced jobs, we'd be better off!
    What happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAllen View Post
    But but the globalists said that if we exported our manufacturing, imported more immigrants, and outsourced jobs, we'd they'd be better off!
    What happened?
    You misunderstood. I fixed that for you.

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    Public education is not education ... it is schooling.
    Our military is not defense ... it is warmongering and empire building.
    Government police do not protect ... they control.
    Regulations do not regulate ... they protect the status quo.
    Government banks do not distribute money based on effort ... it is gifted to close friends ... and some of it trickles down.

    The result is war, poverty, fear, chaos, and hopelessness for most people with abundance for a few elite.
    -Travlyr

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    Oop! Missed the typo, thanx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    This is not economic recovery. This is long term economic stagnation.

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    The news and politicians have been lying about a "recovery" for 3 or more years now. It should be a meaningless word by this point. It's reason #89 why I can't watch "the news" with other people around.
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    It still blows my mind how short-sighted these politicans are.
    They can't seem to understand that lower incomes from the bad trade deals they sign and outsourcing for h1b visas will decrease revenues, and lower the number of home buyers. This ain't trig, here. It's real simple math.

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    I don't know about the so called recovery being fake or not. But for me it has been a recovery since I got a job back in October after being out of work for almost 1.5 years. Dang.... Then shortly after working the new job got another job offer. Of course your career and skills could make all the difference.

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    All that "economic stagnation" is piling up in the banker's excess reserves.
    The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

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    local hospital is planning layoffs...
    "Sorry, guys, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerrockstar View Post
    I don't know about the so called recovery being fake or not. But for me it has been a recovery since I got a job back in October after being out of work for almost 1.5 years. Dang.... Then shortly after working the new job got another job offer. Of course your career and skills could make all the difference.

    Congratulations on your personal achievements. I mean that. It's an aggregate recovery that they lie about, though. Even in the best of economic times, there will also be many people who are stagnant or down on their luck at any given moment.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerrockstar View Post
    I don't know about the so called recovery being fake or not. But for me it has been a recovery since I got a job back in October after being out of work for almost 1.5 years. Dang.... Then shortly after working the new job got another job offer. Of course your career and skills could make all the difference.
    I am just an ol' Country Boy trying to get by , don't know much about skills and careers, ..... I do know recovery is bullshit and I have never been out of work a year .





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