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    State Representative John Kavanagh Wants Voters to Repeal State's Voter-Approved Medical Marijuana Act
    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/val..._john_kava.php

    Apparently fresh out of a screening of Reefer Madness, Republican state Representative John Kavanagh wants voters to now vote to repeal Arizona's medical-marijuana law, which voters approved in 2010.

    As the first bills are being submitted for the upcoming legislative session, Kavanagh submitted a bill that would put medical marijuana back on the ballot, in 2014.

    Kavanagh provided his nonsense explanation to Capitol Media Services' Howie Fischer, as he explained he was just damn outraged about the reports that about 2 percent of teenagers had obtained marijuana from prescription-pot card-holders.

    Kavanagh told Fischer that report was the "last straw" for him, although Kavanagh failed to mention that in that report, teenagers who smoked marijuana in the last 30 days said they obtained it from friends (72.7 percent), parties (28.6 percent), other (23.7 percent), family/relatives (14.8 percent), and school (13.4 percent) more than medical-weed card-holders (11.6 percent). Kavanagh's proposed vote does not address the problems of teenagers having friends or families, or attending school or parties -- which are much more common ways of teenagers obtaining marijuana.

    The legislator also doubled down on his statements to the Arizona Republic, saying he wanted to let voters "rethink a decision they made on faulty -- and absent --information."

    Kavanagh would need a simple majority in the House and Senate to get this on the ballot for 2014.
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    The Empire Strikes Back. (did anyone really think they wouldn't?)

    Kavanagh provided his nonsense explanation to Capitol Media Services' Howie Fischer, as he explained he was just damn outraged about the reports that about 2 percent of teenagers had obtained marijuana from prescription-pot card-holders.
    This fake outrage is as transparent as sandwich baggies. By this reasoning all prescription drugs and alcohol should be illegal.
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    Maybe there should be two mj ballot measures; that pearl clutching control freak's, and another legalizing it for recreational use like CO and WA.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    The Empire Strikes Back. (did anyone really think they wouldn't?)



    This fake outrage is as transparent as sandwich baggies. By this reasoning all prescription drugs and alcohol should be illegal.

    good point.
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    I almost want this to go through, since I'm pretty confident it would be defeated easily.
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    The legislator also doubled down on his statements to the Arizona Republic, saying he wanted to let voters "rethink a decision they made on faulty -- and absent --information."
    Why, how magnanimous of him! After all, it's not every grunting thug who is willing to allow you to "rethink a decision" he doesn't like ...
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    Looks like I was right:
    AZ Marijuana polling
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    Lets get full legalization on the ballot and see this square's head explode

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    Can we run a liberty candidate against him in LD23?
    I'm in this district. Pretty sure he's running for State Senate next term, when the Senator from this district tries for Secretary of State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smart3 View Post
    I almost want this to go through, since I'm pretty confident it would be defeated easily.
    I agree, I want to see this defeated 70%+ No to 30%- Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkob View Post
    Lets get full legalization on the ballot and see this square's head explode
    This too.
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    I'm hoping the sad news from MT was a fluke that not only will NOT be repeated, but will be fixed in a year or two. This shouldn't pass in AZ. The tide is on the legalization side, not the repeal medical side.
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    I would think that 2016 would be best for AZ's legalization.

    Slight problem being that it hands the state to the Dem nominee, especially if the marriage initiative in 2014 is pushed to 2016. Could you imagine AZ going +4 to the D? McCain's successor would probably lose as well.
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    I'm not at all worried about medical marijuana failing in 2014. Yes, it passed only 50.1% to 49.9% in 2010, but the entire country has changed so much since then, and people have seen that nothing really changed since the law went into effect. Add to that that WA and CO legalized it for all recreational use, and the fact that more older people die in 4 years and more younger people become voters, that this will easily go 60% no and 40% yes on banning medical marijuana.
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