http://mises.org/books/economicsethics.pdf " ("Fallacies of the Public Goods Theory and the Production of Security", Hoppe.)
Since the government does not create wealth, the public services provided to a society are provided with wealth originally taken from the society. To say someone is personally gaining from something that was taken from them to begin with is a fallacy.
On a macro level public services (roads, police, fire) are paid for with wealth that was taken from the population already. It is like taking water from the deep end of a pool and pouring it into the shallow end. Nothing is gained, just displaced inefficiently. I should of quoted the poster on the other page that was saying that "everyone gets something from the state". I say that is not true because they took it from you to begin with.
I took a student loan from the state for $3750. I'm not even sure why I took it. I have the cash to pay for it this very instant if I need to. I am very fortunate that that is the only debt I currently have until i buy a house.
No more IRS.
I am now old enough to vote.
Frederic Bastiat When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law. - The Law Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Government
That is a falacy of thought. The state CAN create wealth, whether it should is a different argument. If the state takes a million tax payers dollars and builds a road giving business a road to transport goods and the saving from that transport is over a million dollars it is wealth created. If the state builds a hydro electric dam for fifty million dollars and it produces a hundred million in electric power it has created wealth. A state can create wealth however not necessary efficiently. There is vertually nobody not receiving benefits from governemenst in this country. But at the same time there is vertually nobody not receiving hinderance from government as well.
Last edited by klamath; 01-04-2013 at 08:02 AM.
War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.