Is anyone here receiving a govt. pension, social security or support payments from govt?

[oyarde]

No , I recv no government benefits , I use roads , pay for that in gas taxes that are near $1 per gallon , license and license plate fees , auto sales tax. I use the Post office and pay near a $1 to mail two letters.The only govt benefits I use are covered in Article One Section Eight and my State Constitution.

[erowe1]

If so... would you mind telling us what it is (pension, benefits, SS, Medicaid/care, or whatever) - and how do you feel about receiving these benefits in light of the current economic situation (govt. is broke).

Is the government being broke something we should try to avoid?

Should we also be helping the Mafia with its finances?

[cbc58]

Is the government being broke something we should try to avoid?

Should we also be helping the Mafia with its finances?

What is the meaning of this post?

[erowe1]

What is the meaning of this post?

It was two questions.

[torchbearer]

direct question - the US govt. is running a $1.6 trillion yearly deficit. should not all payouts be reduced across the board for everyone receiving govt. $$ to bring this to $0 ? and we haven't even started to get into the 50-70 trillion in unfunded liabilities promised...

to other posters who say "take what you can now" - how is the system crashing faster going to change things for the better? it's just more debt being pushed off that has to be paid eventually - either through inflation, a lower standard of living or higher taxes. you think govt. is going to get smaller? is there ANY time in history where a currency collapsed and the govt. didn't get bigger and make life worse for it's citizens? this is like eating sugar for years and the dentist telling you to stop or your teeth will rot and you'll need dentures - then they do -- and you find out dentures suck. it's not sunshine and roses coming.. it's misery.

depends on how old you are on when it would be better for the economy/government to finally crash and burn.
if you are younger, the quicker it happens, the better- because you'd have time to rebuild your wealth(possibly).
if you are older, you want to keep kicking the can down to your grandkids in hopes you'll punch-out before the economy does.

[cbc58]

It was two questions.

how would you answer them? you must have an opinion or wouldn't have crafted them.

[torchbearer]

Yes, pretty much. How to not pay into the system, legally.


As long as we continue to fund this crap, it will exist. I understand the need for working - bringing home more money than welfare and other programs pay, but people putting money into the bottomless pit of need are possibly a bigger problem than people taking money out.

I have often thought the same thing. I know that the protection racket people bang enough tax protestors to keep most people in line, but everyone should be seeking a way to eliminate contributions to the beast.

though, if you think about it- if everyone stopped sending in their protection payments tomorrow, uncle Ben could just print up what the government wanted, and steal the wealth from the people that way.

[erowe1]

how would you answer them? you must have an opinion or wouldn't have crafted them.

No to both.

But I'm not the person who wrote the OP.

[ican'tvote]

The state is not the people. The state is force.
There is nothing wrong with accepting the money it dishes out to placate you. Just try to use it for good, and don't become dependent.

I don't receive anything myself.

[Jingles]

I receive nothing from the state. All I get is my income stolen from me.