I completely sympathize with posters like tod evans, and I agree with the sentiment. Right on! Don't deal with these creeps! Don't dirty yourself with their blood money! Myself, I also do not receive any direct payments like Socialist Security, welfare, or food stamps. But I do receive lots of indirect benefits and subsidies. The food I buy at grocery stores was subsidized by the thieves at the Department of Agriculture; I avail myself of roads that are funded by theft; I use electricity that comes from an aggression-based system; my tap water is likewise anything but free-market. Should we give these things up?
To quote Walter Block:
"Consistent refusal to deal with government thieves would involve one in committing suicide, since governments control all of the earth's surface. This is anathema to libertarianism, which holds life, not death, as the ideal."
Dr. Block has written on this issue -- should a libertarian take gov't money? -- on many occasions. Here is one of his expositions:
Dear Slimedia: We hate you utterly. Your days are numbered.
Cordially, Every Ron Paul Supporter on Earth.
As long as we continue to fund this crap, it will exist. I understand the need for working - bringing home more money than welfare and other programs pay, but people putting money into the bottomless pit of need are possibly a bigger problem than people taking money out.
If there is one group of people I wouldn't mind receiving money at all is returning vets. Their lives are seriously in need of the help most of the time returning. They were willing to give their life (albiet for nothing) so we can give a few dollars.
"Get everything you can, break the system!" Heard this from the counterculture baby boomers as well in the '60's and '70's. Well they have been doing it damned near 50 years. Strange how the cycles keep repeating themselves. The younger generation think they have discovered a startling NEW concept because they has so little respect for their parents and grandparents that they never bothered to listen to what their parents and grandparents said about life and ideas of their youth and repeat exactly what they dispise in the older generations. Human's are funny.
War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.
With all of the trillions of dollars given to big banks, corporations, defense contractors and all that money wasted on overseas wars, don't you think that if we cut all that spending first it would spur most of the people dependent on government into a much more efficient and productive private sector?
The OP is playing the same tired old game as the establishment.. they pretend the only thing we can cut is granny's pension.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
If you seriously want to reduce government and balance the budget you HAVE to look at Grannie. And GI Joe. Three programs consume the vast majority of the budget- defense spending, Social Security, and Medicare/Medicaid. If you got rid of EVERYTHING else, you still cannot balance the budget (in the absence of higher taxes). They are also going to be the fastest growing portions on into the future unless changes are made.
Freedom is a state of mind. Nobody can take that from you unless you let them.