No more "neocon" or "isolationist", lets adopt a new paradigm

[Agorism]

I agree... The Jacksonians really should be natural allies, but we are often too quick to label them as "neocons". Trouble is that the other two camps are so good at convincing the Jacksonians that there is always some dire national interest at stake, and dragging them into new wars and overseas projects.

So Jacksonians would have been in favor of invading iraq I bet. And since we started the war and have to win, we wouldn't want to "cut and run" even if we have to stay for 100 years.

Lacking a clear agenda, they become the gullible foreign party position.

[July]

So Jacksonians would have been in favor of invading iraq I bet. And since we started the war and have to win, we wouldn't want to "cut and run" even if we have to stay for 100 years.

Lacking a clear agenda, they become the gullible foreign party position.

Well they appear, to me, to be more reactionary...if they think there is some imminent sense of danger. But they don't like to stir up conflict where there is no threat to us, and they don't like to linger in a conflict without a clear objective...they would prefer to win and get out. So unfortunately propaganda about WMDs and whatnot is very effective at getting them to support a war that they probably wouldn't otherwise.

[Agorism]

Well they appear, to me, to be more reactionary...if they think there is some imminent sense of danger. But they don't like to stir up conflict where there is no threat to us, and they don't like to linger in a conflict without a clear objective...they would prefer to win and get out. So unfortunately propaganda about WMDs and whatnot is very effective at getting them to support a war that they probably wouldn't otherwise.

Ah, so this is the party you join if you want to be foolishly manipulated by Wilsonians and Hamiltonians.

[July]

Ah, so this is the party you join if you want to be foolishly manipulated by Wilsonians and Hamiltonians.

Well, it's the only side they hear... There hasn't been a prominent Jeffersonian voice to the contrary since...Ron Paul.

[bolil]

spade is a spade.

[John F Kennedy III]

I think the new paradigm of people that actually care about their country and fellow man is:

Occupy vs Liberty

[otherone]

So a snake slithers into a mosh pit and says "don't tread on me"?

And why does the OP keep using the term "democracy" with Jeffersonian ideals....it should be "Liberty". Huge difference.

[Confederate]

Removed by Confederate-Mod.

[Confederate]

Well, it's the only side they hear... There hasn't been a prominent Jeffersonian voice to the contrary since...Ron Paul.

Pat Buchanan.

[itshappening]

Buchanan frequently praises Hamilton so i'd say not.