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Thread: Seleka rebels take six towns in the Central African Republic -government failure

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    Default Seleka rebels take six towns in the Central African Republic -government failure

    Three rebel groups who have called themselves Seleka have taken six towns including a mining town. The say that President Francious Bozize has failed to agree with the 2007 peace deal that would be inclusive to the opposition groups. They say that he only cares about his ethnic group and family. Chadian soldiers have only recently left after protecting his residence in Bangui, the capital of the state.

    The Central African state's military lacks funding or motivation to prevail. Some military equiptment was stolen by the Seleka group and Central African soldiers taken prisoner.

    It looks as if the Central African government isn't walking down the right road to peace.

    If President Bozize gets this wrong his second term which began in March 2011 could be put in jeopardy and even dismal failure. He has to wake up, and change his policy.

    This is one of the four countries that had those US advisors sent in to keep a brief the situation regarding the Lord's resistance group that rampaged through those states. This country has had almost no conflict with it's neighbours or even internally, plenty of crime though for sure.

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    The Seleka alliance is less than fifty miles away from the capital according this Guardian article.

    The central African government has requested assistance from the French state, there were protests in the capital supporting President Bozize, and that they were asking for

    The news prompted the CAR's president, François Bozizé, to issue a public plea for international assistance as thousands of supporters marched through Bangui protesting against the rebel advance and accusing France, the former colonial power, of abandoning the country.

    "We ask our French cousins and the United States of America, the great powers, to help us to push back the rebels … to allow for dialogue in Libreville [the capital of nearby Gabon] to resolve the current crisis," he told the crowd.

    "There is no question of allowing them to kill Central Africans, of letting them destroy houses and pillage, and holding a knife to our throats to demand dialogue."
    There are one hundred and fifty Chadian soldiers deployed to defend the government. As for the State's military pretty inoperable. The government has caused this mess at least in a number of ways, clearly.

    To be fair, also the neighbouring nations don't help and have caused plenty of problems surrounding this landlock country.

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    150 soldiers to protect the government...who protects the country?

    2 + 2 = 5.

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    Just a guess, but I suspect that the Central African Republic (formerly Empire) has very strict gun control laws. Such a revolution simply can't be happening.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

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    The Central African republic is better of than it's neighbours such as the Congo or Liberia or Rwanda.

    Though the government has caused this mess, the military that the CAR has is illdisciplined, and under funded. A 2007 human rights report, clearly states that the ineffective but small state military has fired indiscriminately at towns in the North west in the year before and I imagine after 2007. These towns sided with other foreigners and Central African citizens who say the government had abandoned them. The soldiers appear out of uniform, intoxicated and loot the community for what ever they need. And now not all soldiers have behaved that way, but when their isn't a structure people can behave arbitrary in anyway they feel like it.

    Under the Constitution Bozize is the commander, he has failed to keep this historically small military in check.

    Central Africans don't believe in having a strong standing army, just a small one. But in this case it's useless just as the government is. According to the numbers, 3,000 soldiers out of a 4.5 million population.

    And no I don't believe the constitution gives the right for ownership of weapons in the citizenry, I was thinking that myself. But the state hasn't had much success with leadership, most of the North stretches of the state are underdeveloped.

    His time in office should of been the construction of a well trained small military to defend the country from small terrorist groups, and obviously be inclusive to the people of the entire country, afterall the people want trade, progress and peace. As the articles portray, only the people in the capital have faith in him, because his leadership is there, and it would seem the government is selfishly only concerned with the South, even though the country has plenty of minerals and resources and could in theory be quite wealthy. There is no crude oil or Natural gas, obviously it being landlocked doesn't make it particulary easier as the neighbouring states have caused problems too.

    There isn't any real police presence in the North either and aren't that useful, the prisons are full, one UK citizen was locked up in a prison and the government asked for payment for his release. Money scheme.
    Last edited by Republicanguy; 12-28-2012 at 12:28 PM.

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    Africa is dismal. No sense of property rights = no civilization.
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    During the time of African slavery, slaves would live in other people's houses, yes there weren't any property rights, but just as the American Natives lived off the land with the belief they shared the hunting grounds and area. Who in the end lost the land through broken deals with American officials who in the end couldn't or didn't really want to stop migration of the Easterners to the west.

    Individualism was something quaint in these societies, but all societies have had fascist beliefs.

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    The current leader of this country is now Michel Djotodia, the now former president Bozize is now living in the Congo state.

    He was in his second term. He messed up big time, and this is what happened.

    I imagine those advisors sent to the country in 2011 or 2012 are still there?

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