(Not?) Absolute proof of Chemtrails

[Indy Vidual]

This video is not Absolute proof of Chemtrails, but it does show a stunning amount of spraying over Dallas.
The sky NEVER looked like that in the 70's and early 80's.

• Is the majority here finally convinced "we are being sprayed?"

Edit: If you've never seen this (the whole thing), and you vote NO on the poll, then you are an uninformed "dumb-ass."

[SpreadOfLiberty]

I'd venture to say we had less flights in the 70's and 80's, and of course we can't go back and compare emperically.

[John F Kennedy III]

I'd venture to say we had less flights in the 70's and 80's, and of course we can't go back and compare emperically.

I remember the skies when I was younger. We didn't have trails that stay in the sky for hours checkerboarding the skies. Purely from real life observational experience I can tell you that CONtrails do not act like this. They quickly dissipate.

[dannno]

I think the fact that our country and many others have been discovered to have done many operations in the past and knowing how maniacal they are, I think there is absolutely no doubt that either occasional or persistent spraying for weather modification and/or other purposes is occurring.

[rhelwig]

Anyone that is familiar with middle school math should be capable of understanding why chemtrails is BS. Its just not possible to carry enough stuff in a plane and spray it at those altitudes and have it even come close to a minimally effective dose amount.

[Kotin]

Anyone that is familiar with middle school math should be capable of understanding why chemtrails is BS. Its just not possible to carry enough stuff in a plane and spray it at those altitudes and have it even come close to a minimally effective dose amount.

That is a terrible argument. Please educate yourself a bit more on the subject.. I'm not even sure what they are but what you said is quite lame.

[SpreadOfLiberty]

That is a terrible argument. Please educate yourself a bit more on the subject.. I'm not even sure what they are but what you said is quite lame.

Ok, so you don't know what they are but he needs to educate himself more on the subject?

[Kotin]

Ok, so you don't know what they are but he needs to educate himself more on the subject?

with that statement I meant I have not made up my mind.. I have done much research however.

[SpreadOfLiberty]

with that statement I meant I have not made up my mind.. I have done much research however.

Ah ok.

[PaulConventionWV]

That is a terrible argument. Please educate yourself a bit more on the subject.. I'm not even sure what they are but what you said is quite lame.

How do you know? Care to tell us why you think it's a terrible argument?

[rhelwig]

That is a terrible argument. Please educate yourself a bit more on the subject.. I'm not even sure what they are but what you said is quite lame.

How is that a terrible argument? If you do even a little basic math its pretty damn obvious that the chemtrails conspiracy theory is totally bogus. There's no way planes can be carrying enough stuff to do much of anything at those altitudes. Do the math! Do it yourself, and stop believing photoshop without at least thinking about it.

[John F Kennedy III]

How is that a terrible argument? If you do even a little basic math its pretty damn obvious that the chemtrails conspiracy theory is totally bogus. There's no way planes can be carrying enough stuff to do much of anything at those altitudes. Do the math! Do it yourself, and stop believing photoshop without at least thinking about it.

Planes are heavy. I'm sure glad they don't allow passengers on airplanes. That would be dangerous.

[PaulConventionWV]

Planes are heavy. I'm sure glad they don't allow passengers on airplanes. That would be dangerous.

That's really oversimplifyiing it. Do you know what it would take to mount a sprayer on the wing of a jet? How many tons of those chemcials do they need to carry, just in the wings? How do they store it? How does the mechanism work? I've heard from some pilots here that it would be nigh impossible. The argument is not bogus. It's a good point that you chemtrail people need to start 'splainin.

[kcchiefs6465]

How is that a terrible argument? If you do even a little basic math its pretty damn obvious that the chemtrails conspiracy theory is totally bogus. There's no way planes can be carrying enough stuff to do much of anything at those altitudes. Do the math! Do it yourself, and stop believing photoshop without at least thinking about it.

Uh, that is a a terrible argument. Let me see if I get this straight.. you are saying that chemtrails aren't real because they can't possibly carry enough chemicals? I laugh at the 'do some math' quip too. Implying that because I have not 'done some math' I am ignorant or moronic. Please give me the variables and I will gladly 'do some math.' For starters, it would to help to know what they are spraying... you know, dissipation rates, concentration, etc. Your 'math' is obviously flawed in that you couldn't begin to tell me that. Saying that chemicals released at those altitudes would be ineffective is another flaw in your logic. That would really depend on what they were trying to do would it not? Directly poisoning people would surely not be as effective at 35,000 ft compared to a fly-over at 500 ft. The covered area at 35,000 ft would be so large the chemicals would largely be uneffective. (not make you die quickly) That is not to say that cancer rates would not be affected in the long run i.e. subtle depopulation. I'm not even saying this is the case. What about geoengineering? Are you aware of Operation Popeye? We have done extensive research into controlling weather patterns; whether that was to be used as weaponry or for humanaterian motives i.e. hurricane displacement etc. You are uninformed of what you are speaking on. The ridiculous assumption that planes couldn't carry enough chemicals when you don't know (and I don't know!) what they are or what the purposes of said chemicals is supposed to be as the sole basis of your arguement is troubling.

[KingNothing]

Anyone that is familiar with middle school math should be capable of understanding why chemtrails is BS. Its just not possible to carry enough stuff in a plane and spray it at those altitudes and have it even come close to a minimally effective dose amount.

The lunatics around here will rip you to shreds for saying that.

[donnay]

The lunatics around here will rip you to shreds for saying that.

You shouldn't be so hard on yourself.

[NoOneButPaul]

What's the motive?

[jonhowe]

What's the motive?

They think it's something sinister, I'm sure.

[Indy Vidual]

What's the motive?

They think it's something sinister, I'm sure.

I know what it's like to avoid long videos, but this one is worth the time:


What's the motive?
There are several leading candidates for the real motive (i.e military related/enhanced radar, GeoEngineering, "poison us all a bit more", weather modification, etc)

• I can tell you for certain, the skies did not used to ever look that way, even with a large amount of airplane traffic.

[John F Kennedy III]

They think it's something sinister, I'm sure.

Lol. Someone needs to start checking the IP addresses on these accounts. They pop up out of the woodworks when it's time for them to troll threads seeking truth.

[jonhowe]

Lol. Someone needs to start checking the IP addresses on these accounts. They pop up out of the woodworks when it's time for them to troll threads seeking truth.

Man, I've been an active poster here for almost 5 years.

[ClydeCoulter]

What's the motive?

Who the hell knows?
All I know is I watch it from time to time. They fly over, criss crossing, on a perfectly clear day (perhaps been clear for days), then I watch the spray spread out over time and completely fill the sky with clouds (note, I'm outside the whole time watching this happen as I till or otherwise tend to my 50'x100' garden and 30'x30' herb patch). So, they are doing something that is creating clouds. And, I experience problems (I have a mild form of asthma) the following day or two with breathing and aching, but not always the same symptoms exactly (although I'm not keeping a log on it).

[John F Kennedy III]

Who the hell knows?
All I know is I watch it from time to time. They fly over, criss crossing, on a perfectly clear day (perhaps been clear for days), then I watch the spray spread out over time and completely fill the sky with clouds (note, I'm outside the whole time watching this happen as I till or otherwise tend to my 50'x100' garden and 30'x30' herb patch). So, they are doing something that is creating clouds. And, I experience problems (I have a mild form of asthma) the following day or two with breathing and aching, but not always the same symptoms exactly (although I'm not keeping a log on it).

This has happened to me a few times in the 3 months since I've been here in Mesa. Word for word except the gardening. Mesa is like chemtrail central compared to where I lived. They don't even care if anyone notices here.

[pcgame]

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[John F Kennedy III]

dude if a chemtrail flew over your house, the chemicals wouldn't affect you, they would affect someone else. The plane is so high in the atmosphere that the wind carries it elsewhere. Affecting people miles away from where you are.

Then he is affected by the chemtrails sprayed in the next town. It certainly reaches you from the sky, without a doubt. So however you can fit that into your equation.

[PaulConventionWV]

Then he is affected by the chemtrails sprayed in the next town. It certainly reaches you from the sky, without a doubt. So however you can fit that into your equation.

Right. I forgot we were supposed to just assume that he is affected in one way or another by chemtrails by engaging in confirmation bias. Sorry about that. My head's not in the right place.

[ClydeCoulter]

dude if a chemtrail flew over your house, the chemicals wouldn't affect you, they would affect someone else. The plane is so high in the atmosphere that the wind carries it elsewhere. Affecting people miles away from where you are.

Are you kidding me? You think the stuff was just a small spot over my house? The stuff covers miles and miles.

And noone photoshoped my skies right in front of my eyes, so, the, "There's not enough stuff mathmatically to do that" doesn't explain anything.

[John F Kennedy III]

Are you kidding me? You think the stuff was just a small spot over my house? The stuff covers miles and miles.

And noone photoshoped my skies right in front of my eyes, so, the, "There's not enough stuff mathmatically to do that" doesn't explain anything.

Lol no $#@! right? I wonder how many deniers would stand next to me here in Mesa and call me a liar.

[donnay]

What's the motive?

Fear, greed, hate and a hunger for power are some of the motives!

[John F Kennedy III]

Fear, greed, hate and a hunger for power are some of the motives!

Amen sister!

I really wish we could escape to a new planet.