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Thread: (Not?) Absolute proof of Chemtrails

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhelwig View Post
    How is that a terrible argument? If you do even a little basic math its pretty damn obvious that the chemtrails conspiracy theory is totally bogus. There's no way planes can be carrying enough stuff to do much of anything at those altitudes. Do the math! Do it yourself, and stop believing photoshop without at least thinking about it.
    Uh, that is a a terrible argument. Let me see if I get this straight.. you are saying that chemtrails aren't real because they can't possibly carry enough chemicals? I laugh at the 'do some math' quip too. Implying that because I have not 'done some math' I am ignorant or moronic. Please give me the variables and I will gladly 'do some math.' For starters, it would to help to know what they are spraying... you know, dissipation rates, concentration, etc. Your 'math' is obviously flawed in that you couldn't begin to tell me that. Saying that chemicals released at those altitudes would be ineffective is another flaw in your logic. That would really depend on what they were trying to do would it not? Directly poisoning people would surely not be as effective at 35,000 ft compared to a fly-over at 500 ft. The covered area at 35,000 ft would be so large the chemicals would largely be uneffective. (not make you die quickly) That is not to say that cancer rates would not be affected in the long run i.e. subtle depopulation. I'm not even saying this is the case. What about geoengineering? Are you aware of Operation Popeye? We have done extensive research into controlling weather patterns; whether that was to be used as weaponry or for humanaterian motives i.e. hurricane displacement etc. You are uninformed of what you are speaking on. The ridiculous assumption that planes couldn't carry enough chemicals when you don't know (and I don't know!) what they are or what the purposes of said chemicals is supposed to be as the sole basis of your arguement is troubling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Rogue View Post

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    These are con trails formed by B-17s and their fighter escort in some cases during WW2.
    Whether or not the contrails that air traffic produces is intentional or not, it does affect weather. I saw a show on PBS Nova I think about a UW researcher who was studying Global Dimming. He was able to compare the effects on 9/12/01 when all air traffic was grounded.
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/contrail-effect.html
    Dude, JFK already said he remembers the sky when he was younger and it wasn't like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Consider who is likely to even click on a thread on chemtrails. If you think they are silly you will likely not even bother to read it and won't get counted in the poll.
    I seriously just considered never coming to rpf again when I saw that poll. I'm also starting to think JFK 3 might actually be Alex Jones, they seem to share a remarkably similar level of stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    If anyone here knows a pilot, well you probably already know how stupid this theory is.... But if you know a pilot ask him if he knows what his exhaust should look like. Ask him if he understands how an engine works.
    I've been in rural alaska for most of the past two years and I enjoy watching "chemtrails" being dropped on literally uninhabited wilderness when planes go by. You really couldn't make up a dumber conspiracy, it's the scientology of conspiracy theories.
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    I don't know what the chemtrail phenomena is, but I definitely started noticing out of the ordinary patterns in the sky starting around 2000/2001. I never noticed them before that. I don't notice them anymore, but I'm usually not looking. Here are some of my observations:

    - started around 2000
    - always during summer time
    - trails linger much longer than normal. They don't dissipate like most contrails. They expand over time to look like clouds.
    - they form grid patterns that look like way more than normal air traffic

    While thinking about this lately (due to threads with this in the subject), I started wondering if this could this be the result of aerial photography efforts? I think the USDA NAIP imagery program was flying nationally pretty heavy during the 2000's. They fly in the the summer and they try to fly on non-cloudy days. They had full US coverage in 2006 I think. That might explain the grid patterns? (I don't know what kind of planes they use for aerial photography) I'm not sure what would explain the lingering trails, but maybe something different about the atmosphere during summer time? For me, it isn't a question that people have been seeing something out of the ordinary, but what is causing it?
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