I don't know the authenticity of this pic. I'm just asking.
I am no authority. But outside of Israel in the settlements I believe everyone is/was armed always.
If its in the settlement areas 100%. But even in Israel proper especially along the border areas many people are armed. This is a very common sight.
You bet your ass they do. Ever since the Maalot School terrorist attack.
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I sort of wonder why she would lug that old, big thing around, unless that is all they can afford.
The Izzies don't much retire weapons. The second rate stuff is used for security in low threat areas.Originally Posted by SpreadOfLiberty
Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.
Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.
Well I don't agree with Israel on much, but this I do. I don't why teachers shouldn't be allowed to concealed carry in US schools.
That's not anywhere near an assault weapon (it's an M1 carbine for Pete's sake); it was introduced during WWII to replace the M1911A1 as a sidearm for certain troops and officers. Better range and about double the capacity, but that's pretty much where the benefits over the 1911 cease.
M1 Carbines are not "big". It's 35.6" long. They are reliable. The ammo seems pricey, though.
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For a woman, it seems big. It just doesn't seem like something you can pull out quickly in a defensive situation.
I'm pretty sure that's not an assault weapon, that's a defense against assault weapon.
I went to Israel twice. The malls look just like they do in America, except for all the off duty kids walking around with "assault" weapons.
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Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.
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The original picture is probably a low security risk area. Might be her own personal gun. For the most part youll see Tavors M4s and maybe some galils.
Yeah, I'd be armed too if I was occupying someone else's land and oppressing and murdering them for decades. Being armed seems quite sensible given the hatred I've instilled against me.
Exactly, probably the same reason kidnappers arm up, just in case their victim decide to strike. So yea, I will have a gun too if I was in the business of stealing land and killing innocent people. God forbid those people decide to fight back
Probably more of a pre emptive thing. Potential attackers see the weapon and look for a softer target.
And that is a good reason to advocate Open Carry.
Visible arms should be as common as a hat.
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Been to Israel once myself - random civilians running around the Old City with M16's. Quite a head turner as an American. Sets off the internal terrorist alarm the TSA has enstilled in us. I wouldn't be surprised to see a teacher there with a rifle.
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Actually, I would want them to be the opposite. If I know all the people with guns then I will be able as an attacker to plan out my attacker well. First, I will try and take out the gun wielders and then go for the soft targets but I cant do this if the guns are hidden.
Conceal carry is better than open carry
Mix of the two is best... if it's purely concealed carry, then the attacker may get overconfident thinking noone is armed
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NO,, you would not. You would look for a soft disarmed target, and would avoid any that could possibly interfere with your intentions. (like school children)
Someone does not commit a crime against a bunch of armed people (with the hope that he can get them all first).
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Indeed... career criminals don't want to attack anybody with guns, period... they know if they get in the habit of doing that, there's only one way that ends..
(except for some reason gang violence... shrug, I guess they have all death wishes)
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More than likely its an M2, so it would have full auto select capability. You can't tell from the angle if it has a selector switch. The .30 carbine round is quite common in Israel. See the IMI Magal their law enforcement uses.
A little personal observation. The recoil on it is minimal so it easy to get the front sights back on target. My 12yo daughter fires mine with flip sights and can shoot 4 MOA on the iron which is a pie plate at 200 yards. Its weight is almost exactly the same as the 10/22 Compact that she qualified rifleman with. LOA is about two inches longer than her 10/22 and the draw length is only an inch longer. 1200 fps on a 110 grain projectile at 200 yards.
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What he said ^ The carbines were also popular with the asian troops in the Korean and Vietnam wars, until the M16 was made available to them. The wepaons can be more easily handled by small stature people than the M1 and M14.
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Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.
IDF requires their reservists to carry their weapons, wherever they go, two days a week. Given the size of their reserve force, that means that between 2-3% of their population are armed with their issued weapons and ammo at any given time. Personal ownership of long guns and hand guns outside of those issued to their reserves is actually quite curtailed.
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there are some Texas schools which have unknown administrators and teachers carry guns and I absolutely think that is a good idea.
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Promoting uncertainty is always a positive in an unequal encounter. When you have few options of shifting the calculus, it best to engage in as many as possible as quickly as possible. Its completely stupid for schools to put their security plans on-line.
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