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    Default Baltic Dry Index crash appears underway just like in 2008

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-1...ight-most-2008

    It's still heading down, even during xmas season and Year To Date is down 54%. Could be an anomoly but doesn't look good.
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    Damn... Under 800 today. I didn't think it could crash again from where it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-1...ight-most-2008

    It's still heading down, even during xmas season and Year To Date is down 54%. Could be an anomoly but doesn't look good.
    I am not sure how this could be an anomly .

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    The shipping fleet is way too big and it keeps growing. Rates are in the toilet and will be for a very long time.

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    http://gcaptain.com/global-shipbuilding-outlook-global/


    This is globalism collapsing. People, we need to be creating local production lines and doing so NOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    http://gcaptain.com/global-shipbuilding-outlook-global/


    This is globalism collapsing. People, we need to be creating local production lines and doing so NOW.

    Hey globalist bankers/politicians, get this through your head - you've lost. You were destined to lose. Now FUCK OFF.
    Yup. And this is one of the silver linings: manufacturing will return to the USA. But the ramp up is going to be a time of pain. Just as an example, I don't think we produce much, if any, textiles. If (when?) textile imports collapse, we are going to be going naked for a few years until we get back up to speed. Textile factories don't go from zero to full speed overnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I am not sure how this could be an anomly .
    Bloomberg's charts of the index show that there have been some hard downward swings in periods since 2008, which did rebound back upwards. So it could just be another cyclical event like before but what got my attention is the large daily drop as reported by ZH and the fact that this downswing is occuring during the xmas season, typically a high shipping volume period. Just something to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    http://gcaptain.com/global-shipbuilding-outlook-global/


    This is globalism collapsing. People, we need to be creating local production lines and doing so NOW.

    Hey globalist bankers/politicians, get this through your head - you've lost. You were destined to lose. Now FUCK OFF.
    More like there's just way too much supply:


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    Here's part of the problem:

    A large tanker that sold for $137 million in early 2008, the Samho Dream, was repossessed by bankers late last year and sold last week in Hong Kong for just $28.3 million.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/bu...pagewanted=all

    Companies can get away with much lower rates because they're acquiring vessels for pennies on the dollar.

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    The Baltic Dry Index is one of the few, if only, index that can't be manipulated...and it says, loud and clear, in spite all this bullshit about "green shoots," that the global economy is in the toilet...

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