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    Breaking.

    Not the actual bill just yet, but a "motion to commit."
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    Is this NDAA bill exactly the same as the Senate NDAA bill? Or did they change it?
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    As Rand Paul has pointed out, this year's NDAA does not change indefinite detentions one way or another. Probably quite a few other reasons to oppose it though.
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    It was a Democratic procedural motion to instruct conferees, which I believe Amash and Paul always vote against.

    This one passed 399-4 because it was related to a plan for promoting the security of Afghan women and girls during the security transition process.

    Here's the roll call vote:

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll624.xml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    Is this NDAA bill exactly the same as the Senate NDAA bill? Or did they change it?
    The House and Senate bills are different so they have to go to conference to resolve the differences, which will happen next week.

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    I sure am proud of our own Congressman Massie. We need to send him some more help from the forums.
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    Good for our four.

    Dust and ashes to the other 399.

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    Is Kerry not there yet? Did it after all turn out he didn't win the idiot special election so we get to give someone a lifetime pension for one month's work?

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    edit, damn. I was following this thread for a while but for a while it said he won/was winning the special election. Oh well FIVE votes come January. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post4751025
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    Kucinich voted for it though. Interesting.
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    NDAA or indefinite detention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    Is Kerry not there yet? Did it after all turn out he didn't win the idiot special election so we get to give someone a lifetime pension for one month's work?

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    edit, damn. I was following this thread for a while but for a while it said he won/was winning the special election. Oh well FIVE votes come January. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post4751025
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    We have almost nothing but pillagers and mafia men in the Republi-con party. It's good to have a few good ones here and there like Massie, Amash, etc. but the machine is so stacked against their agenda it's beyond depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpreadOfLiberty View Post
    NDAA or indefinite detention?
    Neither.
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    So what vote was it?
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    Neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpreadOfLiberty View Post
    So what vote was it?
    The House proceeded with one hour of debate on the Davis(CA) motion to instruct conferees on H.R. 4310. The instructions contained in the motion seek to require the managers on the part of the House at the conference on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on the Senate amendment to the bill H.R. 4310 be instructed to agree to section 1249 of the Senate amendment (relating to a plan for promoting the security of Afghan women and girls during the security transition process).





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