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    An Iranian military commander claimed Monday that the country has stolen all the secrets held by a high-tech American surveillance drone that crashed in Iran last year, according to Iranian news reports.

    "All the intelligence in this drone has been completely decoded and extracted and we know each and every step it has taken," said Brig. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, Commander of the Aerospace Division for the elite Islamic Revolutionary Guard, according to an English-language report by Iran's semi-official Fars News Agency.

    Another Iranian outlet, Press TV, reported that Hajizadeh said that data gleaned from the drone showed that it was not spying on the Iranian nuclear program – a story Hajizadeh said the Americans had spread "as an excuse for hostile practices."

    The RQ-170 Sentinel drone, a classified unmanned surveillance craft produced by defense contracting giant Lockheed Martin, was on a CIA mission when it mysteriously crashed in Iranian territory last December, according to U.S. officials at the time. Days after the crash, Press TV broadcast video of what appeared to be the drone propped up but in good condition. Iranian officials said then they were going to set about analyzing the advanced aircraft.

    At the time of the crash, American officials said that the drone had been operating over Afghanistan when its operators lost control, after which it floated into Iranian airspace. Iranian officials said their country's electronic warfare experts had been able to take control of the drone and bring it down -- a claim disputed by Pentagon spokesperson John Kirby, who said the drone was not taken down by "hostile activity of any kind."

    The bat-wing shaped craft is designed to dodge enemy radar and slip unnoticed into hostile territory to gather information or support operations on the ground. It was reportedly used to keep tabs on the man believed to be Osama bin Laden during the Navy SEAL mission that took out the terror leader in Pakistan in May.

    Hajizadeh also reportedly said today that a surveillance drone sent by Hezbollah to spy in Israel in October was "an old product of Iran" and featured none of the technology allegedly gleaned from the RQ-170.

    Representatives from the CIA and the U.S. military did not immediately respond to requests for comment for this report.



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    Are those skulls in place of the stars on the US flag on the tail? Alien heads? Or is that the Iranian poster?

    NM--it's the poster, I'm pretty sure.
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    Lot of lying going on. How unusual.
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    All your secret are belong to us.
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    Obama should have sent whats left of SEAL team 6 to retrieve the drone. Now make that mission into a movie and I will watch it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathy88 View Post
    Lot of lying going on. How unusual.
    Yeah, I don't believe the Iranians decoded a damn thing or that the U.S. drone accidently went over into Iranian airspace. I do find it plausible that the Iranian's hacked and landed the drone as there was hardly any damage to a craft that supposedly fell from 10,000+ feet.

    ETA: I've seen that some of these drones have automatic landing procedures should they lose contact with their pilot. So maybe this drone was 'confused' as to where it was exactly and landed itself. You are right Kathy, both sides are lying through their teeth.
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    How did they steal something that was trespassing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by youngbuck View Post
    Another Iranian outlet, Press TV, reported that Hajizadeh said that data gleaned from the drone showed that it was not spying on the Iranian nuclear program – a story Hajizadeh said the Americans had spread "as an excuse for hostile practices."...

    ...At the time of the crash, American officials said that the drone had been operating over Afghanistan when its operators lost control, after which it floated into Iranian airspace.
    Story contradicts itself. Which was it?
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    Governments lying.....I don't believe it.
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    I dont believe any of it...

    For all we know we intentionally crashed it so as they tried to hack it we could hack them.

    We have no idea what's really going on and never will.
    It's just an opinion... man...

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    Star Trek Plot: They send the modified V'ger back home to seek out its creator... Pandemonium ensues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOneButPaul View Post
    I dont believe any of it...

    For all we know we intentionally crashed it so as they tried to hack it we could hack them.

    We have no idea what's really going on and never will.
    Why do so many people say "we" when they are referring to the government or some government agency? "We" don't control the actions of these agencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Why do so many people say "we" when they are referring to the government or some government agency? "We" don't control the actions of these agencies.
    We do in a detached sense--we send 'em the money to do what they do.
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    Anything that was in that drone (software or hardware) is by now revealed and not secret to Iranians anymore.


    There is no code that cant be broken and no password or encryption that can not be broken(?). It just takes time and they have more than enough time.



    Just hardware on that drone is worth billions.

    If I remember correctly US military introduced marking "eyes only" when "stealth paint" that absorbs radar was invented and now that same paint is in iranian hands lolllllllllllllolol trololol....

    What is the price of that "stealth paint" on that drone? lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puppetmaster View Post
    How did they steal something that was trespassing?
    Was my first thought.
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    The U2 spy plane had a self destruct button on it. It supposedly had a delay, but the rumor among the U2 pilots was that the delay was milliseconds. That's probably why Gary Powers didn't push it and eventually got captured. Self preservation is a strong instinct in humans. That begs the question, why didn't the drone have a self destruct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    The U2 spy plane had a self destruct button on it. It supposedly had a delay, but the rumor among the U2 pilots was that the delay was milliseconds. That's probably why Gary Powers didn't push it and eventually got captured. Self preservation is a strong instinct in humans. That begs the question, why didn't the drone have a self destruct?
    Seems like the U2 wouldn't have needed to have a self destruct button on it if they had just made it so the plane would self destruct once the ejection seat had safely removed the pilot.

    You have posed a good question, why didn't the drone self destruct once the pilot had lost control of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Seems like the U2 wouldn't have needed to have a self destruct button on it if they had just made it so the plane would self destruct once the ejection seat had safely removed the pilot.

    You have posed a good question, why didn't the drone self destruct once the pilot had lost control of it?
    that feature will be in the next model.

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    free market minds find solutions....

    Better than that small group of egg-head clowns working in their secret back room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    You have posed a good question, why didn't the drone self destruct once the pilot had lost control of it?
    the drone is set to return to the airfield it launched from.
    iran overrode the GPS signal getting the the drone (ground based systems blasting GPS at the drone), and the drone thought it was landing at the afghan airfield. the iranian airfield was a bit higher in elevation, which hurt some parts of the landing gear, hence the black skirt.

    if you dont think the gps can be overridden, read this: http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/none/...-1-000-spoofer

    recently iran has claimed to have another US drone (navy ScanEagle drone)
    http://news.kuwaittimes.net/2012/12/...rone-captured/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly. View Post
    the drone is set to return to the airfield it launched from.
    iran overrode the GPS signal getting the the drone (ground based systems blasting GPS at the drone), and the drone thought it was landing at the afghan airfield. the iranian airfield was a bit higher in elevation, which hurt some parts of the landing gear, hence the black skirt.

    if you dont think the gps can be overridden, read this: http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/none/...-1-000-spoofer

    recently iran has claimed to have another US drone (navy ScanEagle drone)
    http://news.kuwaittimes.net/2012/12/...rone-captured/
    Sounds like an engineering problem. Had the engineers known of that vulnerability, they probably would have had it self destruct in the event of lost control rather than relying on GPS to return it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Seems like the U2 wouldn't have needed to have a self destruct button on it if they had just made it so the plane would self destruct once the ejection seat had safely removed the pilot.

    You have posed a good question, why didn't the drone self destruct once the pilot had lost control of it?
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    that feature will be in the next model.
    And cost an extra $50 million per drone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confederate View Post
    And cost an extra $50 million per drone.
    Well, they have a choice. Let the top secret equipment fall into enemy hands or lose the equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    We do in a detached sense--we send 'em the money to do what they do.
    Yeah, but that's so indirect it doesn't really justify the use of "We", in my grammatically nit-picky opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Yeah, but that's so indirect it doesn't really justify the use of "We", in my grammatically nit-picky opinion.
    I disagree. We could have stopped income tax, the Federal Reserve and numerous wars and death, raids, gov't expansion if we put our foot down and refused.

    I know it's not realistic (anymore), but "we" keep electing these people and paying them like kings to do what they do.
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    Honestly, I hope they really did discover all the secrets from the drone. Maybe, just maybe, this will ever so slightly make the fight Iran crowd at least a little bit hesitant about attacking them. But, knowing how dumb they are, I doubt it.

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    Notice the propaganda.

    The Iranian who is quoted doesn't use the word "stole." The journalist does, in a perfectly matter-of-fact way, both in the article and the headline.

    How in the world is that theft?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Notice the propaganda.

    The Iranian who is quoted doesn't use the word "stole." The journalist does, in a perfectly matter-of-fact way, both in the article and the headline.

    How in the world is that theft?
    True, they stole nothing. They were invaded by a hostile foreign aircraft. They didn't steal it or anything from it. They might have learned many things from it, how significant those discoveries are is the question. I don't think it is very significant at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Notice the propaganda.

    The Iranian who is quoted doesn't use the word "stole." The journalist does, in a perfectly matter-of-fact way, both in the article and the headline.

    How in the world is that theft?
    more to that point, had the US downed a Iranian drone in US territory, it would be touted as an act of war.
    not so when 'merica does it.

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