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    Quote Originally Posted by swissaustrian View Post
    Ask your employer to be paid in gold/silver coins which are deemed legal tender in the us. Claim your salary was the amount of the coin's face value (e.g. $50 instead of $1700 for 1 oz).
    A guy named Robert Kahre from NV did this in 2003 and won in court against the IRS and the DOJ. (somebody please post a link, I can't do it from a mobile phone).
    Maybe that's a solution for you?
    The guy would have to claim the profit he made when selling the coins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    The guy would have to claim the profit he made when selling the coins.
    And it's viewed by the government as a profit/gain to the "seller" of the coins, with no regard to the fact that there may be no profit once you price it in other tangible wealth that is clearly defined and has real value. The loss, not gain, is in value of the currency that the profits are reckoned in nominally, but it doesn't count that way, and all because Congress refuses to do its job and define a dollar.

    So in cases like this, a capital gains tax is more aptly a "currency debauchery loss avoidance" tax.

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    You have a real talent with words Steven.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Douglas View Post
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    So in cases like this, a capital gains tax is more aptly a "currency debauchery loss avoidance" tax.
    +1984
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy Vidual View Post
    You have a real talent with words Steven.



    +1984
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    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/411

    Federal reserve notes...shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the
    Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of
    Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank.
    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/411

    Federal reserve notes...shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the
    Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of
    Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank.
    You forgot this part:

    "Amendments

    1934—Act Jan. 30, 1934, struck out from last sentence provision permitting redemption in gold."
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    for its deeds are very far from my eyes. -Archilochus

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    You forgot this part:

    "Amendments

    1934—Act Jan. 30, 1934, struck out from last sentence provision permitting redemption in gold."
    No, I did not forget. It is still the law.
    Research lawful money.
    Last edited by Danke; 12-08-2012 at 04:08 AM.
    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/411

    Federal reserve notes...shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the
    Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of
    Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank.
    They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand...
    • So I can show up at any Federal Reserve bank *demanding* Gold for USD, and they will not shoot me?


    • Negativity is ignorance, and ignorance is your own personal tyranny. It tells you how to act, how to talk, how to think, and what to feel. You will never see a world without tyrants until you release your own. ~Honored to be Among You

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    Get out of the USA. Make less then $X as stated by the IRS and you don't owe the IRS anything, but now you'll be paying tax to whatever socialist gov u move to.

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    The IRS advised me "if you are not a person required to file please write not liable on the form sign it and send it back". In researching frivolous returns I found that writing NOT LIABLE on the form is NOT a frivolous return.

    I have almost always "worked for myself" . However when I have not and written NOT LIABLE on the document I have gotten all my money back no questions asked.

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    Theres a guy in Belleville Ontario who converted his numismatic business into a chartered bank that converts precious metals into fiat money TAX FREE, because he was able to dig up the central banking loophole surrounding the fact that they are classified as "financial instruments". He was only able to successfully apply for chartered bank status doing this because a retiring tax agent gave him the info since she had nothing to lose at the time. Frontier Gold Exchange, one of a kind operation in North America. He also has an armoured guard company that has a lot of contracts with our federal government here in Canada.
    Last edited by Petar; 12-08-2012 at 06:42 AM.

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