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    Peter Schiff's investment strategy has been very straight forward and consistent since around 2000. Basically precious metals and foreign stocks with high dividends in fiscally sound countries. It's easy to check the record on his strategy. Compare that to a typical portfolio and you'll see that his strategy FAR outperfomed the typical one since 2000. The only time the typical strategy did better was in 2009 but Schiff did much better in all the other time frames. It's wrong to cherry pick one small time frame when he lost money and ignore the vast majority of the time when he made money. Plus the most important fact is that the NET gain for Schiff's strategy is much higher than the others since 2000.

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    Schiff is a big proponent of investing in those foreign dividend stocks in their respective currencies. ex; AUD, CAD, etc.

    I've yet to find a way to do this with a small investment account. Seems like you have to be a high roller to do this.

    Anyone have any experience with currency ETF's like FXA or FXC?

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but here is a list of his funds: http://www.europacificfunds.com/

    Most don't show much of a history (atleast according to morningstar...which has it flaws) the ones that do have underpreformed their peers. The cost is much higher then their peers. If you have longer history I'm all ears. But ussually when you have a flawed fund they "re-create" the fund with a different ticker to get rid of its lack of preformance rather then its above average preformance as you're suggesting.

    All things being equal. Their investment philosphy is flawed. You can't invest using our current currency (dollars) into foreign stock or precious metals held in dollars and escape any of the doom and gloom he's predicting. Massive inflation which seems to be his biggest concern (as is mine) will effect all aspects of life. Foreign companies and dollar denominated PM's will have no better or worse ability to increase in value over any other type of asset (assuming that asset would rise with inflation as most assets do)
    Last edited by jbauer; 12-05-2012 at 10:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sluggo View Post
    Schiff is a big proponent of investing in those foreign dividend stocks in their respective currencies. ex; AUD, CAD, etc.

    I've yet to find a way to do this with a small investment account. Seems like you have to be a high roller to do this.

    Anyone have any experience with currency ETF's like FXA or FXC?
    Open a retail brokerage account. Unless the brokerage house has a low end limit you should be able to buy as little as one share of an ETF provided you're willing to pay the ticket charges. Now spreading the cost of the purchase and sale over one share might mitigate any ability to make anything but thats on you.

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    I'm talking about the ability to convert USD to CAD and invest in the Canadian stock market, for example.

    Seems like most brokerages that will even do this require minimums of 100K and up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sluggo View Post
    I'm talking about the ability to convert USD to CAD and invest in the Canadian stock market, for example.

    Seems like most brokerages that will even do this require minimums of 100K and up.
    Wrong. Check out any discount brokerage. Even fidelity or something like that would work, given the huge number of ETFs available to the average joe investor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sluggo View Post
    I'm talking about the ability to convert USD to CAD and invest in the Canadian stock market, for example.

    Seems like most brokerages that will even do this require minimums of 100K and up.
    It is my understanding that you cannot hold foregin currency in a domestic account denominated in a foregin currency. (even if a statment says you own that currency) If you can it certainly isn't readily availible. All etf are going to trade back to local currency at some point and since you live here that currency is dollars. Now if you want to move to another country that is one way to accomplish this. The whole trade back to local currency makes it possible for "the man" to be able to tax you accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jclay2 View Post
    Wrong. Check out any discount brokerage. Even fidelity or something like that would work, given the huge number of ETFs available to the average joe investor.
    Jclay is right you're very much able to trade canadian currency (denominated in dollars) in any plain jane brokerage account. Have fun.

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    http://www.sitkapacific.com/files/Si..._Portfolio.pdf

    Mish has outperformed both the S&P Benchmark and the Hedge Fund industry tracker over the last 5 years.

    Schiff's funds, on the other hand, have trailed both benchmarks. Unsurprising that he, unlike Mish, doesn't make his results easy to find.

    Not to mention the exorbitant fees he charges those that trade through his firm.

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