The Syrian Sniper

[Petar]

Holy fuck idiots can't wrap their minds around the fact that some people are just rebelling because they don't like living in a brutal dictatorship.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Holy fuck idiots can't wrap their minds around the fact that some people are just rebelling because they don't like living in a brutal dictatorship.

and who is supplying those rebels , and who trained their " leaders " and who wrote their mission statement , mizz clittin, again ?

[juleswin]

and who is supplying those rebels , and who trained their " leaders " and who wrote their mission statement , mizz clittin, again ?

Yup, also its not that there are no real rebels but whatever real rebel that exist is dwarfed by foreign fighters, foreign weapon and western promoted outside leaders. Once the govt falls, those true rebels will be pushed aside and the puppets will be installed. There are times when a people have to come together regardless of their differences and in my book, that is when you are facing outside invasion.

[jmdrake]

Holy fuck idiots can't wrap their minds around the fact that some people are just rebelling because they don't like living in a brutal dictatorship.

Some "idiots" can't wrap their minds around the fact that some people who are just "rebelling because they don't like living in a brutal dictatorship" get co-opted into creating an even more brutal dictatorship. I don't care one way or another what happens with this sniper. I do care that our government is interfering and I'm concerned as to what the result of that interference may be. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. This is like, what, the 100th time already?

[jmdrake]

I know there are people trying to take advantage of these movements, however, a lot of people there are tired of the what is happening and I would like to ask you what would you do if you were in that situation?

That's just it. I'm not in that situation. It's none of my business. But if I was in that situation, I wouldn't be throwing in my lot with Al Qaeda linked Islamists. I wouldn't want my country to go the way of Libya.

Edit: And why is there this fetish with propagating obvious propaganda just because there's an "evil dictator" involved?

[kcchiefs6465]

Some "idiots" can't wrap their minds around the fact that some people who are just "rebelling because they don't like living in a brutal dictatorship" get co-opted into creating an even more brutal dictatorship. I don't care one way or another what happens with this sniper. I do care that our government is interfering and I'm concerned as to what the result of that interference may be. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. This is like, what, the 100th time already?

I think this effectively ends this conversation.

Holy fuck idiots can't wrap their minds around the fact that some people are just rebelling because they don't like living in a brutal dictatorship.

It's really not that hard to understand. I'll make it real simple.. the United States government/C.I.A. does not give two fucks about Syrian rebels who've been oppressed. There is an ulterior motive that will be uncovered. There always is. Oh, and for those that haven't heard, this isn't the first time we've been dicking around in Syria. We had plots to overthrow their government in the forties and fifties when they wanted to be self dependent and not take our foreign aid. (Presumably to have troops stationed there)

When demonstrations led to the resignation of the prime minister, the U.S. assistant military attaché, who was in reality a CIA officer, began to meet with the Syrian chief of staff, Husni Zaim, to plan a coup. Soon after, Zaim “requested U.S. agents provoke and abet internal disturbances which ‘essential for coup d'etat' or that U.S. funds be given him this purpose.”-© U.S. Foreign Policy in Perspective: Clients, Enemies, and Empire, 2009

Here's a good site to start with: http://us-foreign-policy-perspective...dex.php?id=323

Also, Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II by William Blum is a must read.

I'll end this post with a question I'd asked in another thread- Is it easier for you to name ten countries the United States has intervened in? Or ten countries the United States has not intervened in?


Edited to add content and to clarify that my post was mostly directed toward Petar.

[jmdrake]

I think this effectively ends this conversation. It's really not that hard to understand. I'll make it real simple.. the United States government/C.I.A. does not give two fucks about Syrian rebels who've been oppressed. There is an ulterior motive that will be uncovered. There always is. Oh, and for those that haven't heard, this isn't the first time we've been dicking around in Syria. We had plots to overthrow their government in 1956 when they wouldn't take our foreign aid. (Presumably to have troops stationed there)

Here's a good site to start with. Also, Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II by William Blum is a must read.
http://us-foreign-policy-perspective...dex.php?id=283

I'll end this post with a question I'd asked in another thread- Is it easier for you to name ten countries the United States has intervened in? Or ten countries the United States has not intervened in?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to kcchiefs6465 again.

I mean really, we just went through this less than a year ago! Folks like BlackTerrel (bless his heart) were saying "How dare you malign the Libyan opposition by linking them to Al Qaeda! Can't you see that people just want to be free?" I "see" it all right. And I see them getting used. As long as we aren't a part of it I'm okay. But we are a part of it. That makes the propaganda part of my problem.

[Qdog]

Lets all hope the little bastard is caught and skinned alive. Killing people trying to defend their country against foreign invasion is not something I condone.

I am pretty ignorant of the situation, and dont know if I should really be cheering for either side. Although, since the media is portraying him as a hero, he is probably on the side of evil!

From what I can infer, it looks like we (the CIA) are attempting some sort of covert regime change under the guise of a popular revolution? if anyone has good, insightful links that might help me to understand what is going on over there, I would appreciate it!

[Qdog]

Holy fuck idiots can't wrap their minds around the fact that some people are just rebelling because they don't like living in a brutal dictatorship.

If it really was a popular rebellion, then the US government would use every power at our disposal to make sure they were crushed. The US imperialist foreign policy is dependent upon our ability to overthrow legitimate governments, and then impose our own brutal, puppet dictatorships. If a real revolution threatened to light brushfires in the hearts and minds of people to overthrow those brutal governments, it would present a great threat to US global imperialistic hegemony.