Culture in Decline | Episode #3 "C.V.D." by Peter Joseph

[Neil Desmond]

But ... but ... it's communism with *robots*, dammit! It'll work this time!

Yeah, but let me at least finish making the robots, first; then we'll try it out and see if this stuff will work.

It is "communism" with robots, but it's also "communism" without the state capitalism, crony socialist & fascist oligarchs, walls with guns to keep everyone inside like slaves in a prison, etc. - at least it better not be, or I might have to use my robots to put a stop to it.

[Jim Casey]

As for a "cure", if someone bought into Joseph's crap, and chose with their own free will not to consume, that would mean that freedom was exercised individually, not destroyed. It's only if the presumptuous creators of the CVD DISEASE tried to exercise power to decide for everyone else (for their own good, natch, because they are afflicted with a Terrible CVD disease), that freedom really would be destroyed.

The problem is that if people choose not to buy, those who sell won't acquire the purchasing power necessary to pay the price tag on their survival needs. This is why denial of Consumption Value Disorder is encouraged to maintain the status quo. We'll likely see the disease progress worse among an ever increasing number of people as technological unemployment will motivate more people to apply the pressure of falling victim to CVD. There simply isn't enough jobs anymore as robots replace labor in the market system, so CVD is a great way to get people to keep using money selling each other products and services marketed on the idea that they need to keep paying to consume to look and feel good about themselves.

Likewise, someone buying the latest iPad, Starbucks, fake boobs or new-fangled makeup kit isn't the slightest bit motivated by the thought of creating more government.

The people selling CVD marketed products will likely be quite interested in investing some of their profits in bribing politicians to use government to help keep them successful in business.

[Steven Douglas]

The problem is that if people choose not to buy, those who sell won't acquire the purchasing power necessary to pay the price tag on their survival needs.

And there's a fundamental. Starve the beast. But then you followed it with more question begging:

This is why denial of Consumption Value Disorder is encouraged to maintain the status quo.

See that? You haven't established a "disorder", but you keep saying it, as if constant repetition will make it one.

We'll likely see the disease progress worse among an ever increasing number of people as technological unemployment will motivate more people to apply the pressure of falling victim to CVD.

And again, we'll likely see "the disease", as more people "fall victim".

I know you mean it from the heart, but that's some arrogant patronizing shit right there. How do you know you're not the victim of a disease--the kind that makes you diagnose imaginary diseases in others? I have compassion for you, because you are obviously a victim of it, but what is the cure for that particular kind of insanity?

Get it?

There simply isn't enough jobs anymore as robots replace labor in the market system...

Ew. You lost me there...stepping out now...I have no time for robot invasions, I have a Bigfoot to catch and a zombie apocalypse to ready for.

[Jim Casey]

And there's a fundamental. Starve the beast. But then you followed it with more question begging:



See that? You haven't established a "disorder", but you keep saying it, as if constant repetition will make it one.



And again, we'll likely see "the disease", as more people "fall victim".

I know you mean it from the heart, but that's some arrogant patronizing shit right there. How do you know you're not the victim of a disease--the kind that makes you diagnose imaginary diseases in others? I have compassion for you, because you are obviously a victim of it, but what is the cure for that particular kind of insanity?

Get it?



Ew. You lost me there...stepping out now...I have no time for robot invasions, I have a Bigfoot to catch and a zombie apocalypse to ready for.

Robot invasion is real, and people are really suffering from it. It's not just some Hollywood fantasy.

Lots of consumers who suffer from CVD deny that it's a disease, just like many consumers suffering from alcoholism deny that it's a disease.

[Steven Douglas]

Robot invasion is real, and people are really suffering from it. It's not just some Hollywood fantasy.

I like the Hollywood fantasy better.

Have you ever thought about hooking up with the Amish, or starting your own cult (aside from branching off from the one you're in)?

[Neil Desmond]

I like the Hollywood fantasy better.

Fantasy?

Ok fine, we still have some ways to go before we get there.

[Jim Casey]

Have you ever thought about hooking up with the Amish, or starting your own cult (aside from branching off from the one you're in)?

The Amish live a rather violence-free lifestyle and also I wouldn't mind growing a beard to dedicate the length of commitment to a wife. The option is certainly on the table, but for now I'm still quite accustomed to using electricity.

Who knows, perhaps cult leadership status is in the cards for my future, but I'm not setting hopes too high.