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“The people of the various provinces are strictly forbidden to have in their possession any swords, bows, spears, firearms, or other type of arms. The possession of these elements makes difficult the collection of taxes and dues and tends to permit uprising, therefore, the heads of the provinces, official agents, and deputies are ordered to collect all weapons mentioned above and turn them over to the government.”
Toyotomi Hideyshi, Shogun, August 29, 1558
There is one reason. Not to "prefer" an old car, but to keep one around, as I do, and as I recommend my family and friends to do as well. That reason has nothing to do with style or vanity. It's purely for serviceability in a SHTF scenario. And when I say SHTF, I don't mean Mad Max. I mean SHTF where a failed currency results in commodity shortages, closed after-market businesses, and the inability to get anything serviced.Originally Posted by KingNothing
I have a couple of old used cars (70's) and an old used pickup. They're all in great condition, with no on-board computers. I can tune them up, do routine maintenance, and have an extensive stock of spare parts collected, all of which were cheap and plentiful, enough to keep each vehicle going for another fifty years. I can take every single part of them apart and put them all back together again in my sleep, with no specialized tools. I have a full spare engine and transmission for the truck, both of which I got for a song, and got a rebuilt blueprinted spare engine for one of the cars.
My cousin is using the truck on his property now. It works fine, lasts a long time, and I wouldn't get rid of it for anything, unless it entailed a cheap, superior replacement--and only along the lines listed above.
It may be nothing, and none of that may ever actually be needed for any emergency. But you never know, and I do like having them, and I do love things that work, and are USER SERVICEABLE. I also like the idea of cocking my snoot at a demand economy that pretends that we will always be able to throw away the old and buy new forever.
1955 Lincoln one of a kind futuristic model , if I recall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joMK1WZjP7g
Back when I was in the fire service, if I arrived on the scene of an accident with hydraulic rescue tools and had to extricate a crash victim from a smashed up new car, or cut them out of an old car, the guy in the old car is getting out faster.
I don't know what the hell they're thinking, but new cars these days have so many freaking airbags it's almost unsafe, lol. We can't just cut into an airbag because they have pressurized canisters that deploy them. Then you think you've found another point you could get through, but unfortunately the car is a hybrid and there's a high voltage line you have to be careful not to cut. We train and train to keep up with the latest technology but no one wants to be sitting there at the scene of an accident trying to find schematics for the vehicle while the patient is bleeding out inside the car.
I gotta agree with others here. I think older cars are safer (except the Corvair, lol). Newer cars do better on crash tests where they speed up a car and run it into a wall head-on and the dummy lands his face in an airbag, but in the types of situations that actually kill people (like going off the side of an overpass and rolling a few times before coming to a stop, thanks to a tree), I'd rather be in a 40-year-old beast of steel.
Last edited by nobody's_hero; 11-30-2012 at 03:30 AM.
If something bad happens, we will be blamed. If something good happens, we will get no credit. If nothing happens, we will be forgotten.
You answered your own question. You drive a car with low mpg because it is very cheap or whatever reason you love the car. I don't hold it against you, though. You should have the choice to do that if you want.
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Dead peoples outdated inferior gas-guzzling dinosaur for the morning crowd.....
Why...
----According to a recent study from Jato Dynamics, a leading provider of automotive business intelligence, U.S. cars emit 85 percent more carbon dioxide and consume twice as much fuel as European and Japanese cars. The average year-to-date fuel consumption figure for cars, minivans and SUVs in the U.S. market stands at 22.6 mpg, compared with 40.3 mpg in Europe and 40.6 mpg in Japan. Those are staggering differences, and they make us wonder why it will take American automakers until 2020 to reach a mandated average fuel-efficiency rating of 35 mpg, when European and Japanese automakers already do. (That's food for thought, folks.)----
i picked this from my early post , thats what i mean about getting out of big oil grips.
take the isuzu which i have had many , gm owned about 50% of the company , they were made in indiana , now no longer in america , they are being sold in europe and now getting close to 50 mpg .
why not here ?????
as far as the 240sx i have , changing the timing chain vs a belt , the 240 is rear wheel drive , very easy to change the timing chain.
i have had over 50 cars/trucks/motorcycles in my life , now when i see a chev super sport or dodge charger ( both of which i have had long ago ) , i see the front wheel drive on the new ones and they will be in the junk yards while the old ones will still be running.
i will offer a bit of advice to anyone buying a newer car , the timing belts will break , most cars now days have what is called a interference engine , means if the timing belt breaks the engine is distroyed . always buy a car that has a non-interference engine .
do not be fooled by epa mpg numbers , they are taken at 55mph , at 70-75 mph you will get 20-25% less mpg.
Last edited by ILUVRP; 11-30-2012 at 06:41 AM.
VW Passat can get over 70 mpg, but it is not allowed for sale in the US because of EPA restrictions.
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