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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    PS: I don't have a cell phone, either.
    But you log on to the internet and particular websites and email addresses from the same location repeatedly. Big Brother thanks you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Humans are flawed individuals. Some of us are more flawed than others. Most of us manage to deal with it without telling other people to kill themselves, because we believe that would be horrible, even when we don't especially like the other person. The point I was making by posting the neg I received had nothing to do with diverting blame. It was intended to speak to something deeper. And it's surreal that I have to spell that out. Although I suspect you still won't get it, because there's something quite "different" about our psyches.

    If I ever had any doubt about the intent of the original post, that neg would have removed them.
    Nah, no difference. You're just being hormonal and irrational now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    But you log on to the internet and particular websites and email addresses from the same location repeatedly. Big Brother thanks you.
    OK, now you're just desperately obsessing. Let's put each other on ignore and go on about our lives before the mods put us in time out.
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    "A 2011 belt is probably every bit as good as your 1997 chain. Nothing wrong with those cars, but materials technology has come a long way since 97.[/QUOTE]"

    timing belts have to be changed at 75-125,000 miles , i would add the 240sx has a adjustable dist , rear wheel drive , easy to work on , mine weighs 2800# , 170hp , sun roof , auto , leather , all for about $5,000, not $30,000 .

    also many new cars have vin specific ecm/ecu ( mine doesn't , 100$ on ebay ) , to flash a ecm on new models is $300-700 , new one about $1,800.

    i think car mfr now days are making cars that cost so much to fix at $100/hr that people just kick them under the bus and buy a new car.
    Last edited by ILUVRP; 11-29-2012 at 10:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILUVRP View Post

    i think car mfr now days are making cars that cost so much to fix at $100/hr that people just kick them under the bus and buy a new car.
    That's somewhat true, but the new cars diagnose themselves. Put it on a computer, diagnose, swap out a board that costs $400 and you're good to go. In the old days, the $400 would have gone to labor. We're not saving any money, but I don't think it costs more to repair them.

    Some people just like new cars. Nothing wrong with that - makes the used car market more affordable.

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    I find it difficult to even begin shopping for used cars. Given the high prices for used cars, and tiny discounts for even 2-year old cars with 50k miles, I'd definitely be buying new right now if I had to buy a car tomorrow. In fact, my next car will likely be brand spankin' new. Not going to stomach 50K miles for 10% off. It's asinine.

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    not to make this a car forum , but one of the best things i have bought 2 wks ago was a -ultragauge- , about $80 , it monitors everything , shows codes if any are present , erase bad codes , read up on them , well worth the money .

    i would add on my 240sx , the ecu is adjustable to reset codes .

    does anyone know of someone that is 99% as good as ron paul ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan View Post
    I find it difficult to even begin shopping for used cars. Given the high prices for used cars, and tiny discounts for even 2-year old cars with 50k miles, I'd definitely be buying new right now if I had to buy a car tomorrow. In fact, my next car will likely be brand spankin' new. Not going to stomach 50K miles for 10% off. It's asinine.
    Supply and demand. Hurricanes and cash for clunkers has reduced the supply of used cars.

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    Supply and demand. Hurricanes and cash for clunkers has reduced the supply of used cars.
    And on the demand side, people finally bought into the idea that you should "always buy a used car." Doesn't make sense to buy a used car with 50k miles when a new one with 0 miles costs $2,000 more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan View Post
    And on the demand side, people finally bought into the idea that you should "always buy a used car." Doesn't make sense to buy a used car with 50k miles when a new one with 0 miles costs $2,000 more.
    Yep, and combine that with decreased income. More demand for used cars.

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    "Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan
    "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself, and we must reject those who spread fear." - B4L update of FDR
    "The Ministry of Truth can turn on a dime, and the fury of the ignorant masses can be redirected at will." - B4L
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