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    If we cut our military spending... the terrorists will get us =(


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    Quote Originally Posted by alucard13mmfmj View Post
    If we cut our military spending... the terrorists will get us =(
    Maybe, just maybe if we quit offending them, they will leave us alone.

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    The department of Veteran Affairs budget alone has grown incredibily large.
    http://www.va.gov/budget/docs/summar...et_Rollout.pdf

    FY 2013

    • The budget request for 2013 is:
    – Total budget $140.3 billion (+10.5%)
    – Mandatory budget $76.3 billion (+16.2%)
    – Discretionary budget $64 billion (+4.5%)
    Medical Care request is $165 million above the enacted Advance

    Appropriations level

    2014
    • Request for Medical Care Advance Appropriations is $ 1.8 billion (3.3%)
    above the 2013 request
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    Good, Lindsey is just making 2014 look better and better all the time. Maybe Grover can help Davis take down Graham.

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    welp....I guess the average American is getting a tax increase then....
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    All we can do is try and turn it around...however...

    ''Why did Rome Fall?

    There are adherents to single factors, but more people think a combination of such factors as Christianity, decadence, lead, monetary trouble, and military problems caused the Fall of Rome. Imperial incompetence and chance could be added to the list. Even the rise of Islam is proposed as the reason for Rome's fall, by some who think the Fall of Rome happened at Constantinople in A.D. 1453.''
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    does Norquist ever emphasize defense cuts?

    imo, he lacks credibility if he does not

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    Quote Originally Posted by surf View Post
    does Norquist ever emphasize defense cuts?

    imo, he lacks credibility if he does not
    http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/po...efense_budgets

    "We can afford to have an adequate national defense which keeps us free and safe and keeps everybody afraid to throw a punch at us, as long as we don't make some of the decisions that previous administrations have, which is to over extend ourselves overseas and think we can run foreign governments," Norquist said Monday at an event at the Center for the National Interest, formerly the Nixon Center.
    Seriously, I think this is a major ideological issue that's going to have to be fought out in the Republican party. The time to start is right now for support for small government, which includes small standing military. It will be important in 2014 & 2016 to increase representation of small government oriented legislators & presidential candidates like Rand Paul.
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    I was at a party in Beverly Hills over the weekend. As demographics would suggest most of the people there voted for Romney. This drunk guy started rambling on about how the only thing the Republicans have left is "defense," like they've lost on all their federal policy issues like taxation, but at least they can keep their beloved defense budget.

    I don't drink, so I was stone sober and asked him about why military was so important to him. My question turned into a bunch of drunken fools screaming at me and accusing me of being a "liberal" because I wanted lower military budgets. When I pointed out that I was for lower taxes and they all were the ones who seemed "liberal" because of them wanting higher taxes to support bloated military budgets, I got a bunch of alcohol fueled epithets in return.

    That's about the extent of it. Republicans drunk with the hubris of their failed policies. In fact I would say that Republicans don't have policies at all anymore. They have a point of view, which is that they don't want to pay taxes, but they still want to get rich with their own set of government handouts including military contracting & monetary monopolies. At least Democrats stand for something, which is why they increasingly continue to win in every demographic that is growing.

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    Military spending can be cut , so can taxes , so can everything else.

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