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    TX Man Sentenced to Life in Prison for 9th DWI

    I just saw this story on Fox news on Megan Kelly's show and they were agreeing with the judges decision. Complete insanity!


    T.X. -- The ninth conviction was the breaking point for one Texas judge who earlier this week sentenced a habitual drunken driver to life in prison.

    Bobby Stovall, 54, was driving his truck in Round Rock, Texas, in early July when he weaved through several lanes of traffic and hit another vehicle, injuring the driver. It was later determined that Stovall had a blood alcohol concentration of .32, four times the legal limit in Texas.

    And while that DWI was certainly enough to get Stovall in trouble with the law, when the judge found out the defendant had eight prior DWI convictions across several different counties in Texas, he ordered up a life sentence for Stovall.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-man-l...8#.UK07zeTokbA
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    shouldn't you have to infringe on another persons life, liberty, or property before having yours removed permanently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by torchbearer View Post
    shouldn't you have to infringe on another persons life, liberty, or property before having yours removed permanently?
    Yes, I agree, but apparently he did do some of that. From what has been reported though, certainly not enough for life imprisonment. wow

    Quote Originally Posted by VoluntaryAmerican View Post
    Bobby Stovall, 54, was driving his truck in Round Rock, Texas, in early July when he weaved through several lanes of traffic and hit another vehicle, injuring the driver. It was later determined that Stovall had a blood alcohol concentration of .32, four times the legal limit in Texas.
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    Many states have such laws... they are called HTV or habitual traffic violator laws. Should he get a felony? Yes; life, no.

    In my state, he would receive a class D felony and be banned from driving for life. If he drives again, he will receive a class C felony.
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    why is this dangerous substance "legal" then?

    life sentence...but not for sandusky, corizone, or teh bernack...

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    Or just sell his car and give him a horse / bicycle.

    Oh wait, it's probably illegal to ride horses nowadays
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    Could this not have been resolved by barring him from having a drivers license?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmyprez_deo_vindice View Post
    Could this not have been resolved by barring him from having a drivers license?
    reason has no place in the court of law.
    the judge gas gotten laid in awhile, had a bad game of golf saturday... so take it.
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    There's still a little Old West in the West.

    Mostly, you get to the southwest and not much is required of you. For example, if jaywalking is illegal in Round Rock, I'd be very surprised. But if you're a constant menace, and especially if you're a continuing deadly menace, you're just liable to get dealt with.

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    That's pretty harsh but he did hit someone and Id want to know the details of his prior DWI convictions. Does he have a history of damaging other's property and health? .32 is VERY drunk...like blackout drunk. Im not a fan of DWI laws overall but his situation is to the extreme.

    Quote Originally Posted by jdmyprez_deo_vindice View Post
    Could this not have been resolved by barring him from having a drivers license?
    Not sure if serious.

    After that many convictions it's pretty safe to say he doesn't have a driver license.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    That's pretty harsh but he did hit someone and Id want to know the details of his prior DWI convictions. Does he have a history of damaging other's property and health? .32 is VERY drunk...like blackout drunk. Im not a fan of DWI laws overall but his situation is to the extreme.



    Not sure if serious.

    After that many convictions it's pretty safe to say he doesn't have a driver license.
    In my state, HTV is after three OWI judgments in a 10 year period. Once you receive HTV, you may be banned from driving. If you continue to drive, they keep stacking felonies. Now I suppose you could end up with life if you use a "revolving door"; however, you won't be handed a life sentence.
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    This is the kind of thing that the penalty of exile would be ideal for.

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    Did he have a driver's license to remove?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carclinic View Post
    Good.
    Me thinks you have a misguided sense of "good".



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    I hope a drunk driver kills you and your family then.

    Seriously though, we have to have some law and order.

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    Life in prison?

    Seems harsh... How about commitment to a health facility, where he belongs. This is a medical problem as much as it is a behavior problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carclinic View Post
    I hope a drunk driver kills you and your family then.

    Seriously though, we have to have some law and order.
    Sick dude very sick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carclinic View Post
    I hope a drunk driver kills you and your family then.

    Seriously though, we have to have some law and order.
    He injured somebody through neglegence. Vehicular battery 2-10. Call it done. Strip drivers liscence if need be for life. But life sentence? Hell, that cop that beat the $#@! out of that innocent janitor - pummeled to bloody death - only got 4 years of Just-Us.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...abled-janitor/

    A Spokane police officer was sentenced to more than four years in prison for using excessive force against a mentally disabled janitor who died after being mistakenly suspected of stealing money from an ATM. Six years ago, Zehm was beaten and targeted with a stun gun by Thompson in a convenience store. He was hog-tied and sat on by other officers until he passed out. He died two days later without regaining consciousness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carclinic View Post
    I hope a drunk driver kills you and your family then.

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    Also... quite $#@!ing rude.

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    Last edited by presence; 11-22-2012 at 07:49 AM.

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    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to presence again."

    Damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    www.fallacyfiles.org

    Also... quite $#@!ing rude.

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    Point is, the laws exist for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carclinic View Post
    Point is, the laws exist for a reason.
    Laws are written and rewritten daily, they're perverted and twisted by prosecutors/judges and lawyers to fit agendas.

    Public sentiment, such as you have expressed regarding drunk drivers, contributes drastically to their perversion.

    Whether or not you realize it you are being played like a fiddle by the propaganda arm of government.



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    Quote Originally Posted by carclinic View Post
    Point is, the laws exist for a reason.
    Don't advocate for pre-crimes. The very fact that you bought a gun means you could kill someone. With the DWI/DUI logic, you are already guilty because of the potential damage you could cause by buying a gun.
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    IMHO, you do it 9 times you're a white trash degenerate. And, granted the legal limit should be set higher, but to do it 9 times and hurt people, he is not going to be "corrected" by a correctional facility. He should be locked away with the key thrown away. Preferably, the US prison system should be a series of gulags that produced cheap goods, where murderers and degenerates can be the opposite of a drain on society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmyprez_deo_vindice View Post
    Could this not have been resolved by barring him from having a drivers license?
    No, not for sure, he might still drive w/o license while hammered...

    Got to lock him up for a while (or take off his hands and legs ...and/or remove both eyes).
    That seems about as excessive as just getting locked up for LIFE!

    The loss of innocent life at the hands of this guy is even more horrible to imagine.

    A few years to dry out while locked up seems more reasonable... He should stop drinking. Maybe it's unlikely he can ever quit. Maybe he's a dangerous driver even while sober. I'd give him a chance to ponder over that for a few years.

    Upon release, he gets conditional parole: Any connection between booze and even going near a car with car keys gets him another few years. If that does not work, try a decade or two in prison. Repeat if necessary with three or four decades, etc.

    The problem goes away eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carclinic View Post
    IMHO, you do it 9 times you're a white trash degenerate. And, granted the legal limit should be set higher, but to do it 9 times and hurt people, he is not going to be "corrected" by a correctional facility. He should be locked away with the key thrown away. Preferably, the US prison system should be a series of gulags that produced cheap goods, where murderers and degenerates can be the opposite of a drain on society.
    Sounds like something China would endorse while they're digging a new graves trench. Jesus, take a Valium.
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    I don't need a valium, I just think we need a harsher criminal justice system. I'd like to see flogging come back, old school death sentences (gallows), and an efficient prison system that actually deters crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Here's one got life for his 3rd DWI;

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/198206713...tcmp=obnetwork
    Thats how it should be.

    Revoke license after second. Life in prison after third.
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