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    Poll: Majority of Americans support conquest, mass bombings

    Poll: U.S. support for Israeli action

    A majority of Americans believe Israel’s military attack on the Gaza Strip is justified, according to a poll released Monday.

    Only a quarter of Americans think the Israeli response to rockets fired at the country’s cities is unwarranted, the CNN/ORC poll found, while 57 percent believe Israel’s response is proper, and 19 percent have no opinion.

    Dozens of people in Gaza have died as a result of the attacks, which were launched last week in response to repeated shelling from Islamic militants in the region. The operation, dubbed Pillar of Defense, began with an airstrike that killed Hamas’ chief of operations. Three Israelis have died from rocket fire.

    The last time Israel waged a major offensive against Hamas, in January 2009, 63 percent of Americans believed Israel’s actions were justified. In the poll released Monday, 59 percent of Americans sympathized with Israelis, and only 13 percent with the Palestinian people.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz2Cgd7IGu7



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    Why do these same people call me crazy when I propose we invade canada and mexico
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    Only a quarter of Americans think the Israeli response to rockets fired at the country’s cities is unwarranted, the CNN/ORC poll found, while 57 percent believe Israel’s response is proper, and 19 percent have no opinion.
    Ummm notice how they didn't mention that Israel fired first by killing Hamas's leader and other civilians with a drone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronulus View Post
    Ummm notice how they didn't mention that Israel fired first by killing Hamas's leader and other civilians with a drone?
    Actually it started before then. Palestinian groups launching over 100 rockets at Israeli civilians over a 24-hour period, an attack on an Israeli military patrol jeep within Israeli borders by Gaza militants, and a tunnel explosion caused by IEDs near Israeli soldiers on the Israeli side of the fence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwax23 View Post
    Actually it started before then. Palestinian groups launching over 100 rockets at Israeli civilians over a 24-hour period, an attack on an Israeli military patrol jeep within Israeli borders by Gaza militants, and a tunnel explosion caused by IEDs near Israeli soldiers on the Israeli side of the fence.
    And to my understanding, the first shot was fired at an 8 year old boy playing football in Gaza. But who really knows anyway, its all he said she said nonsense.

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    The majority of Americans believe what they are told to believe.
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    So what, as long as the US isn't involved. If someone fired rockets into Israel, Israel has the right to defend herself. If Israel is the aggressor, then my opinion changes.

    Who fired first? A question that probably doesn't have a simple answer, as both sides are equally to blame.
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    I don't care much what Israel does, as long as we aren't required to prop them up with our money and the lives of our soldiers.

    We need to cut the cord. Let Israel grow up and be free to do it's own thing, but with the caveat that they can't rely on Daddy and Mommy (the USA) to step in and save them when they do something stupid and get in trouble.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gwax23 View Post
    Actually it started before then. Palestinian groups launching over 100 rockets at Israeli civilians over a 24-hour period, an attack on an Israeli military patrol jeep within Israeli borders by Gaza militants, and a tunnel explosion caused by IEDs near Israeli
    soldiers on the Israeli side of the fence.
    Because the Israelis killed a retarded kid before because he would not fallow orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Goat View Post
    And to my understanding, the first shot was fired at an 8 year old boy playing football in Gaza. But who really knows anyway, its all he said she said nonsense.
    First there was this:

    GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — A Gaza Strip man who died early Monday after he was shot by Israeli forces as he approached the border fence with Israel was mentally ill, his family said.

    Israeli forces shot 23-year-old Ahmad Nabhani as he crawled toward the border Sunday evening, partially concealed in a dried river bed, an Israeli military spokeswoman said. She said he ignored several warnings to stop. Nabhani later died of his wounds.

    "He was sick — he had a mental illness," said Nabhani's brother Hazem, 27. He said his brother was being heavily medicated for depression and had approached the border fence three times previously. Each time, Israeli forces handed him back to Palestinian authorities, his brother said.

    "My brother didn't understand anything. Sometimes you'd speak to him and he wouldn't understand. It is like he wasn't there."

    Israeli forces frequently fire on people in the border area, because militants often use it to fire rockets at Israeli communities nearby. But occasionally Palestinian children and others who don't understand the dangers wander in.

    http://news.yahoo.com/gaza-man-kille...151325997.html
    Followed by this, three days later:

    Israeli gunfire kills Palestinian boy in Gaza clash: medics - Yahoo! News

    GAZA (Reuters) - Gunfire from Israeli forces killed a Palestinian boy in the Gaza Strip on Thursday, local medics said, during border clashes between the Israeli military and Palestinian militants.

    The Popular Resistance Committees (PRC), a militant group, said its gunmen had confronted an Israeli force of four tanks and a bulldozer involved in a short-range incursion beyond Israel's border fence with the Gaza Strip.

    "Terrorists opened fire at IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) soldiers while they were performing routine activity adjacent to the security fence," an Israeli military spokeswoman said in Jerusalem.

    An Israeli military official said the soldiers responded by firing at "suspicious locations".

    Palestinian medics said the boy, aged 12, was hit by machinegun fire, either from Israeli helicopters or tanks that took part in the incident.

    Israeli incursions into the enclave, run by the Islamist Hamas group, are usually aimed at searching for possible tunnels that could be used by militants to sneak into Israeli territory to wage attacks.

    The incident broke nearly two weeks of a lull in violence between Gaza gunmen and Israeli forces since the last wave of fighting that killed several militants, mostly from Hamas.
    http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-gunfir...163218375.html
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    They've been fighting each other over there for thousands of years. Nothing new here. Leave them the hell alone, and let them settle their own affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAllen View Post
    They've been fighting each other over there for thousands of years. Nothing new here. Leave them the hell alone, and let them settle their own affairs.
    Rubbish, native arabs and jews have been living peacefullt together before the European Jews immigrated. Also this idea that people who call themselves pro life dont care about whats going on in the ME should tell you all you need to know about the pro life movement in the country. I am not with PETA or anything but even I can sympathize with a suffering animal talk less of the mass murder of Innocent people

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    Your title should read: Most support Israel's right to defend itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAllen View Post
    They've been fighting each other over there for thousands of years. Nothing new here. Leave them the hell alone, and let them settle their own affairs.
    No they haven't. It is very new. It started 65 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    Your title should read: Most support Israel's right to defend itself.
    -neg rep for bull$#@! propaganda
    I am the spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    Your title should read: Most support Israel's right to defend itself.
    I wonder if those same people will support Syrian govt defending themselves against outside invaders. In that answer lies the truth behind their support, because Americans will very likely support the leveling of Alabama if Israel claimed it was defending herself.



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    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    No they haven't. It is very new. It started 65 years ago.
    You belive that? Iraq has never been at war with others? Wow. Let's see......I believe there was middle east conflicts in the first world war, was there not? That's about 100 yrs. ago. I'm sure there are others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    Your title should read: Most support Israel's right to defend itself.
    I read about this one Israeli town that has gotten 8,000 rockets flown into it since 2003 or something like that. Population around 5,000.

    The town actually supplies power to Gaza through its power plant, and when Hamas targets the tower they complain that they are without electricity, lol.

    edit: link: http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/insideisr...of-Gazas-Fury/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAllen View Post
    You belive that? Iraq has never been at war with others? Wow. Let's see......I believe there was middle east conflicts in the first world war, was there not? That's about 100 yrs. ago. I'm sure there are others.
    Way to move the goal post buddy. You made the claim that jews and arabs have always been fighting with each other in Palestine, and he said that is not true before 1945. Now all you have to do to refute his claim is list the many many wars fought between jews and arabs before say 1940. Google is your friend, now get to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Way to move the goal post buddy. You made the claim that jews and arabs have always been fighting with each other in Palestine, and he said that is not true before 1945. Now all you have to do to refute his claim is list the many many wars fought between jews and arabs before say 1940. Google is your friend, now get to it
    No, I never said specifically jews, YOU did. I said they. They means the people of the middle east. What difference does it make whether it's Israel, Iran or Iraq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    -neg rep for bull$#@! propaganda
    -Rep for your non stop Israel hatred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I wonder if those same people will support Syrian govt defending themselves against outside invaders. In that answer lies the truth behind their support, because Americans will very likely support the leveling of Alabama if Israel claimed it was defending herself.
    I don't support intervening in Syria, but in Syria you have a belligerent government that is massacring their own people. American intervention in Syria would just make that situation worse, but the government of Syria should be condemned for their actions. All the government of Israel is doing is defending their own land and their own citizens from attacks by Hamas.

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    The argument Israel has the right to defend it self is really not valid when Israel fights with guns bought with American dollars.You can not give one side in an argument an AK while the other has nothing, then let the side with the AK abuse the other side until she tries to retaliate and in the end call it "a right to self defense".

    Every man and child that dies by Israeli bullets is in the eyes of most the world seen as a crime committed by the USA as much as Israel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    I don't support intervening in Syria, but in Syria you have a belligerent government that is massacring their own people. American intervention in Syria would just make that situation worse, but the government of Syria should be condemned for their actions. All the government of Israel is doing is defending their own land and their own citizens from attacks by Hamas.
    In Syria you have NATO trying to do a regime change.The rebels have recruiting/training/supply and logistic camps inside Turkish territory which is protected by NATO.Then the rebels attack targets in Syria and escape into Turkey.

    Up until 60 years ago this was a clear declaration of war.But Syria can't do anything because of NATO.

    And the Israeli government is not defending "their" land it is defending STOLEN land.See the person with the oldest valid Title Deed owns the land.The Palestinians have deeds to their land from the Ottoman Empire,so unless the Israelis can produce Byzantium,Roman,Persian,Egyptian or any other type of valid title deed that predates the ones the Palestinians have from the Ottoman empire that is still their land.
    Last edited by Demigod; 11-19-2012 at 05:31 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    I don't support intervening in Syria, but in Syria you have a belligerent government that is massacring their own people. American intervention in Syria would just make that situation worse, but the government of Syria should be condemned for their actions. All the government of Israel is doing is defending their own land and their own citizens from attacks by Hamas.
    Spoken like a true traditional conservative buying by the truck load the propaganda about Syria from the US govt, do you also believe the story of the incubator story in Kuwait? or the Gaddafi viagra popping army going around to rape innocent Libyan women? I also love that word, belligerent - just what you say to a man unwilling to capitulate to American might. Just say it TC, you do not support the Syrian govt defense of their country because they are arabs.

    Btw, I will be defending the Israelis if they were actually defending their country, I unlike some people here consider all humans to be on the same level. Also If you use white phosphorus on a civilian population like Israel did during Operation cast lead, I will speak out against you. Its just the way I roll.

    Btw, here is a very nice doc about the Israel assault of the peaceful flotilla boat incident and yea 1 american was killed during the attack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    Your title should read: Most support Israel's right to defend itself.
    -rep for not paying attention to what is actually going on there. Shame on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    I read about this one Israeli town that has gotten 8,000 rockets flown into it since 2003 or something like that. Population around 5,000.

    The town actually supplies power to Gaza through its power plant, and when Hamas targets the tower they complain that they are without electricity, lol.

    edit: link: http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/insideisr...of-Gazas-Fury/
    I wonder if they are now supplying electricity to the town after they destroyed their electricity plants? If you dont know what I am talking about, please please watch this one video about Israeli treatment of the Palestinians and maybe you will understand what might lead them to use rockets (more like glorified fire crackers) into their former cities now Israeli cities.


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    Last edited by klamath; 11-19-2012 at 06:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    -Rep for your non stop Israel hatred.
    No it is not hatred for Israel. You just like to live in a fantasy world.

    Explain to me, how does Israel have the right to defend itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Just say it TC, you do not support the Syrian govt defense of their country because they are arabs.
    I've never said anything negative about Arabs. I have no problem with people in the Muslim world. The only people saying anything negative about people of a certain ethnicity are those people here who constantly spew hatred towards Israel. It's quite funny that some of the people who post here often criticize Republicans for being "anti Muslim" when a substantial amount of people who post here are clearly anti Jewish.

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