Israel calls up 75000 reserves for invasion. Lieberman says Israel not interested in peace

[LibertyEagle]

JFKIII, there are plenty of videos out there on both sides of this thing and just because something is in a video, believe it or not, doesn't make it factual.

[ClydeCoulter]

Specs, I see your point and actually agree with what you are saying, but what I am talking about has to do with what I hear so many saying when they say that Israel shouldn't even be there. I don't think it is any of our business whether Israel is there or not.

They only exist because we and GB made it so and keep it so. If it were created by mutual agreement between those that lived there, that would be another story.

[Agorism]

I do. Perhaps this is just semantics, but I don't believe Israel has a "right" to exist. Neither does the US or any other goverment. I believe the people in a geographic location have a right to create their own form of government but that doesn't mean the govt entity has any such right as the people still have the right to abolish that which they created.

And why is Israel the only country you ever hear about this "right to exist"? I can't ever recall hearing that phrase about any other country.

This is the problem with believing in some government or limited government as some here think.

Once you get caught up in that argument, then various governments have the right to exist, and therefor the right to defend or kill others, etc etc

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Hamas fires rockets from next to schools and hospitals which puts Israel in a tough position.

Military invasion is the more humane response rather than returning rockets to where they came from.

[Agorism]

I think they want the ground invasion so they can kill all the Hamas leadership and diplomats so they have no one to be able to go to the UN with in order to pursue statehood.

[LibertyEagle]

They only exist because we and GB made it so and keep it so. If it were created by mutual agreement between those that lived there, that would be another story.

I understand that, but it is there now. If they can keep it, fine. If they cannot, that is fine too. Our government should not be involved.

[LibertyEagle]

This is the problem with believing in some government or limited government as some here think.

Once you get caught up in that argument, then various governments have the right to exist, and therefor the right to defend or kill others, etc etc

What the hell are you talking about?

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

My heart aches for people on both sides of this idiocy. I always hope that one day the people of the world will realize they have no reason to hate each other and instead are being manipulated into fear and anger and hatred that fills them with a thirst for blood that never seems to be quenched. I guess more people will have to die for this wisdom to be learned by the bulk of humanity.

[ClydeCoulter]

I would like to see a poll of how many in the palestinian land area (so called Israel also) would like to abolish the state of Israel and how many not.

[ClydeCoulter]

I understand that, but it is there now. If they can keep it, fine. If they cannot, that is fine too. Our government should not be involved.

Can we disarm Israel before we get out of it (what we have given them)?