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    Israeli Cabinet Calls Up 75,000 Reservists as Gaza Invasion Looms
    Last Ditch Effort to De-Escalate Conflict as Israel Spurns Ceasefire
    http://news.antiwar.com/2012/11/16/i...nvasion-looms/
    Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman insisted Israel isn’t interested in a ceasefire right now because he believes it would only last for a couple of weeks anyhow, while Defense Minister Ehud Barak has repeatedly said the fighting is only just beginning.
    How soon an invasion could begin is unclear, though Israel has been rushing tanks and armored vehicles to the Gaza border since yesterday. Depending on the size of the invasion it could happen in a matter of days.



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    Oh war is so terrible. So many little babies and kids will never live to grow and be happy. When will people start deciding to stop the wars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatwasp View Post
    Oh war is so terrible. So many little babies and kids will never live to grow and be happy. When will people start deciding to stop the wars?
    My guess is never. Historically so proven, and biblically foretold. I feel my job is to turn as many hearts to love and peace as i can. As corny as it sounds....

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    I thought you were referring to Joe Lieberman when I first read the title. Ha ha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agorism View Post
    "...Lieberman says Israel not interested in peace".....Israeli Cabinet Calls Up 75,000 Reservists as Gaza Invasion Looms
    Last Ditch Effort to De-Escalate Conflict as Israel Spurns Ceasefire
    http://news.antiwar.com/2012/11/16/i...nvasion-looms/
    Why lie? Your semantics is as bad as anything liberals put out to spin politics their way. Lieberman didn't say anything about not being interested in "peace".

    But I do know that Hamas is not interested in peace - going to the extreme of not recognizing Israel's right to exist. This "war" started with the U.N. decision to create the nation of Israel. Now the morality of this decision might be debated, but it is past history. Its creation being an established historical fact, whether rightly or wrongly, Israel has been defending itself since that beginning. Israel has no blame for this ongoing animosity, other than the fact that Israelis accepted the U.N.'s decision to create their nation. Given this opportunity, it is human nature to not refuse such an opportunity; and Israel will not now give up its sovereignty; and has the moral right to protect itself. Middle east war will be an ongoing monstrosity until Israel's existence is accepted by all sides and all sides are willing to sit down together and negotiate an acceptable peace. Hamas is not willing to do this.
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    Oh fuck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number19 View Post
    Why lie? Your semantics is as bad as anything liberals put out to spin politics their way. Lieberman didn't say anything about not being interested in "peace".

    But I do know that Hamas is not interested in peace - going to the extreme of not recognizing Israel's right to exist. This "war" started with the U.N. decision to create the nation of Israel. Now the morality of this decision might be debated, but it is past history. Its creation being an established historical fact, whether rightly or wrongly, Israel has been defending itself since that beginning. Israel has no blame for this ongoing animosity, other than the fact that Israelis accepted the U.N.'s decision to create their nation. Given this opportunity, it is human nature to not refuse such an opportunity; and Israel will not now give up its sovereignty; and has the moral right to protect itself. Middle east war will be an ongoing monstrosity until Israel's existence is accepted by all sides and all sides are willing to sit down together and negotiate an acceptable peace. Hamas is not willing to do this.
    Not interested in a "cease fire" means he's not interested in peace...

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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    My guess is never. Historically so proven, and biblically foretold. I feel my job is to turn as many hearts to love and peace as i can. As corny as it sounds....
    The bible doesn't hold the truth of the world, only a bunch of men in the past based in their experiences and illusions. As for peace, no it isn't corny. Far too many men out there don't know what peace means, they are dogs, and savages and they are every where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number19 View Post
    Why lie? Your semantics is as bad as anything liberals put out to spin politics their way. Lieberman didn't say anything about not being interested in "peace".

    But I do know that Hamas is not interested in peace - going to the extreme of not recognizing Israel's right to exist. This "war" started with the U.N. decision to create the nation of Israel. Now the morality of this decision might be debated, but it is past history. Its creation being an established historical fact, whether rightly or wrongly, Israel has been defending itself since that beginning. Israel has no blame for this ongoing animosity, other than the fact that Israelis accepted the U.N.'s decision to create their nation. Given this opportunity, it is human nature to not refuse such an opportunity; and Israel will not now give up its sovereignty; and has the moral right to protect itself. Middle east war will be an ongoing monstrosity until Israel's existence is accepted by all sides and all sides are willing to sit down together and negotiate an acceptable peace. Hamas is not willing to do this.
    So, how many years must pass between forcefully taking something and it being considered rightfully yours? When the generation passes that you took it from, or when you have the U.N and U.S approval? Or when all of those stolen from finally find a new home? Or when you stop taking more from them?

    edit: Or, when those that you stole from finally admit defeat and recognize your right to have done so?
    Last edited by ClydeCoulter; 11-18-2012 at 08:02 AM.

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    Israel has a right to exist. I take no issue with that. But, I do take issue when they keep expanding out beyond what they were initially given and the way in which they do it. If they want additional land, they should try to buy it.

    But, in this latest deal, Israel has every right to defend herself. Hamas was and is bombing them. It doesn't look like Hamas is very interested in peace, either.
    "We do have some differences and our approaches will be different, but that makes him his own person. I mean why should he [Rand] be a clone and do everything and think just exactly as I have. I think it's an opportunity to be independent minded. We are about 99% the same on issues." "People Try To Drive Wedges Between Rand And Me." --Ron Paul

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