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smelly zionist, still a good writer though.
Hitler may have been an evil man, but his views on the problems on democracy are still worth reading.
A society that places equality before freedom with get neither; A society that places freedom before equality will yield high degrees of both
Make a move and plead the 5th because you can't plead the 1st
Anti Zionism appears to be so strong on this board that even great minds like Rand are denounced and demonized for their support of Israel.
I for one agree strongly with her. We dont have to give money to Israel but in no one should be go on attacking and bashing it like some members of this board do. We are supposed to be against foreign interventionist policies not just against the current ones and for others.
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Ayn Rand has done more for liberty than any of us will ever do in our lifetimes. Read about the formation of the modern libertarian party. Most of its founders began as objectivists, and her influence kept the early libertarian/anti-war movement from devolving into another leftist rebellion. We are better off today because of her.Who gives a $#@! what this enemy of liberty has to say?
Sorry, but I never saw Ayn Rand as having a "great mind". She's always struck me as a frigid old fish that wasn't worth the time. I've heard that she was against collectivism, but she sure doesn't have any problem dishing out a good serving of it here. Primitive savages? Please. Has she ever met a Palestinian? Talk about collectivists. She is one.
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And beyond that, Ayn Rand was not big on Israel and certainly not on Zionism. The revisionists forget Israel was not critical to her thought, writtings, or philosophy:
Ayn Rand was a freethinker and it is clear some people here frown upon that sort of thing.Israel was not so important to Ayn Rand: there is only one mention of Israel in all her written work. It occurs in “The Lessons of Vietnam,” The Ayn Rand Letter, dated August 26, 1974 but – the Letter being behind schedule – written in May 1975. The essay is reprinted in The Voice of Reason, published after her death.
http://ariwatch.com/AynRandOnIsrael.htm
Nobodies perfect.
"We do have some differences and our approaches will be different, but that makes him his own person. I mean why should he [Rand] be a clone and do everything and think just exactly as I have. I think it's an opportunity to be independent minded. We are about 99% [the same on issues]." Ron Paul
Ron Paul discusses Ayn Rand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjwuGHPilwI
Ron Paul says Ayn Rand had influence on him, but she didn't like Libertarians and she was too militant for him.
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Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
That's true.
Even Ron Paul supports Israel, but doesn't want to give Foreign Aid to them.
Ron Paul: Israel is Our Close Friend
Ron Paul Responds to President Obama's Middle East Speech
Ron Paul
May 19, 2011
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The middle east problem is easy. First let's get all our troops out and get to see who wins in the battle. Winner solves the problem!
Ayn Rand is off the mark. Israel is just as "terrorist" as any other ME country and, in fact, suicide bombers etc were actually started by the Israelis.
It is not anti-Zionism to question a country that was started by taking its land from another people. If that is anti-Zionism, then you should be all for the American Indian getting his land back from the US.
As for "primitive savages", the smartest people in the ME are not the Israelis, but the Iranians.
I have nothing against Israel as a state, but neither do I have any desire to support them in their own brand of terrorism- we have enough problems with the US to solve; Israel can take care of itself.
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loooooooooooooooooooooool. No Ayn Rand=No Ron Paul.
I don't agree with Ayn Rand's foreign policy, but bashing Ayn Rand is not okay. I think The Fountainhead is about the best book I've ever read. Before Ron Paul there was Hayek, Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand spreading freedom. That's about it.
So she sides with Israel because the arabs kill innocent civilians just like the Israelis. Great reasoning right there.
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