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    Quote Originally Posted by misean View Post
    I know it's unpopular here, but I side with Israel in these disputes. That's Israel's land. They continually get attacked by racists. Israel isn't the instigator. If people stopped blowing themselves up and attacking Israel, there would be no retaliation. Does anyone really believe that Israel is going out of its way to take over the Middle East?

    That said, I really don't want the US entangling in these conflicts.
    "if people would stop blowing themselves up..."

    As if it were that simple. Unbelievable.
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    "To understand the Middle East conflict and especially what's going on in Israel, you must understand that it is a blood-feud between two brothers that goes back 5000 years"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    "To understand the Middle East conflict and especially what's going on in Israel, you must understand that it is a blood-feud between two brothers that goes back 5000 years"
    -- Billy Graham
    That might me true if Zionists were related to Abraham.
    They are NOT for the most part.

    Khazars are not related. (they are decedents of Japheth) And many true Jews reject Zionism outright and oppose the State of Israel and it's policies.

    There is a conflict between God and Satan though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    I can't understand how someone is so offended by a "fuck you" when they are totally okay with killing innocent people.
    What evidence do you have that they killed innocent people on purpose? What exactly is Israel supposed to do when Hamas starts firing rockets at them? Just sit back and take it and allow their citizens to be killed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    I wont make mine general though, you have to be an Islamaphobe to not see the injustices of Israel.
    I'm not an Islamaphobe, but I'm also not anti Israel. Hating Israel is not part of supporting a non interventionist foreign policy. I support closing down all of our foreign bases, ending all foreign aid, opposing pre-emptive war, etc. But I also support the right of Israel to defend itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    But I also support the right of Israel to defend itself.
    What "right" did they have when they were blowing up hotels?

    This started long before WWII,, long before the Nazi party was invented.

    Zionists were using terrorism to get their way from the start. right up to their demands for a state and continuing since.
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    Do ya'll realize that you're debating skirmishes in another country that our country shouldn't be involved with?

    It doesn't matter one whit to me who's right or who's wrong, what matters to me is why in the hell is our military involved with no declaration of war.

    This bullshit is being force fed to TV viewers as relevant to the US because of our "interests"....Yeah right!

    Oil is our interest and if war is necessary to secure our interest in oil then for Gods sake declare war, state the objectives and get on with it.

    Otherwise our military needs to come home and leave `em be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post

    Otherwise our military needs to come home and leave `em be.
    That would be my first wish,,
    That was one of the reasons I supported Ron Paul,, because he would have gotten us out of it.

    That area is headed for a Cataclysmic War, and the Zionists are the main push behind it.
    They will drag the whole world into it.

    Sad and unfortunate on many levels..
    I will oppose it, though there seems no way to avoid it.

    I certainly will not support it nor the evil fucks that are pushing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    What evidence do you have that they killed innocent people on purpose? What exactly is Israel supposed to do when Hamas starts firing rockets at them? Just sit back and take it and allow their citizens to be killed?
    What was Israel supposed to do he threw a rock at an armored vehicle


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muwahid View Post
    What was Israel supposed to do he threw a rock at an armored vehicle
    Out of all of the outrages that occur, that's a pretty lame attempt at generating an emotional reaction. People are dying. People are being beaten. People's homes are being stolen or destroyed. People are being unfairly imprisoned. That picture looks like a teenager getting a time out for being a bad boy.

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