TYT Cenk on Israel offensive

[puppetmaster]

You can be a rational non-anti-semite and not support Israel's government.

I don't make anyone look bad, Israel's gov't actions make them look bad, because they are bad.

I do not support our current government, nor do I support Israel's, which is ridiculously intertwined with our own. And another thing for you who yell "anti-semite!" at those of us who try desperately to end this god damned conflict with ethical solutions--fuck you. I was on the side of the Jews when they were oppressed by the Germans, and I'm on the side of the Palestinians when they are oppressed by the Israelis.

It's called philosophical consistency. And your name calling is a bunch of bullshit. I am not anti-anyone, except jackasses who try to force their bullshit down other people's throats, people who kill, people who steal, people who terrorize, people who torture. If it makes me an anti-semite to be opposed to that, then I'll take the title with honors.

I pray for the day that people finally stand up to these corrupt governments and abolish them.......I am so ready

[Traditional Conservative]

You can be a rational non-anti-semite and not support Israel's government.

I don't make anyone look bad, Israel's gov't actions make them look bad, because they are bad.

I do not support our current government, nor do I support Israel's, which is ridiculously intertwined with our own. And another thing for you who yell "anti-semite!" at those of us who try desperately to end this god damned conflict with ethical solutions--fuck you. I was on the side of the Jews when they were oppressed by the Germans, and I'm on the side of the Palestinians when they are oppressed by the Israelis.

It's called philosophical consistency. And your name calling is a bunch of bullshit. I am not anti-anyone, except jackasses who try to force their bullshit down other people's throats, people who kill, people who steal, people who terrorize, people who torture. If it makes me an anti-semite to be opposed to that, then I'll take the title with honors.

Congratulations. You get to keep the title as the nastiest person on Ron Paul Forums.

[amy31416]

Congratulations. You get to keep the title as the nastiest person on Ron Paul Forums.

And you get to keep the title of "most supportive of killing innocent people" on the forum

I'll keep mine over yours anyday.

Just curious--what was it that pissed you off? That I'm not actually an anti-semite?

[Traditional Conservative]

Just curious--what was it that pissed you off? That I'm not actually an anti-semite?

The f*ck you comment. I don't ever curse at anyone at these forums, or anyone period. I didn't call you an anti semite either. I wasn't speaking to you. I simply made a general statement.

[amy31416]

The f*ck you comment. I don't ever curse at anyone at these forums, or anyone period. I didn't call you an anti semite either. I wasn't speaking to you. I simply made a general statement.

Oh. So I should assume that you're talking to some other nameless person who is being critical of Israel's gov't. By making a "general statement" rather than referring to a specific person--you were referring to me and a lot of other people. If you can dish it out--you ought to be able to take it.

And if cursing bothers you so much, the internet isn't for you. And it is appropriate for me to curse at people who imply that I'm racist when I am not. At least I don't support wanton killing, theft and lies as you seemingly do--at least in this case.

I can't understand how someone is so offended by a "fuck you" when they are totally okay with killing innocent people.

[Muwahid]

They didn't start the conflict. They fired back after Hamas launched rockets into Israel. Was Israel just supposed to sit back and take it and do nothing?

Knowing the media and propaganda I'm surprised you think the narrative of who started it is true. I can show you ample proof hamas not only plays ball with Israel but also does her favors in order to stay in politics, such as arresting members of small resistance groups.

More times than not if a rocket landed in Israel it wasn't from hamas unless they're retaliating.

And like I said before their existence violated palestinians rights. If Texas was occupied by china fifty years from now and oppressed Americans and stole their land would you say Texans have a moral right to fight the occupation.

Israel didn't start it, sounds like an oxymoron.

If you support Israel for personal reasons fair game. They are your opinions. But to try to defend their blatantly wrong actions seems silly.

[UWDude]

The f*ck you comment. I don't ever curse at anyone at these forums, or anyone period. I didn't call you an anti semite either. I wasn't speaking to you. I simply made a general statement.

Personal digs are always veiled as general statements on moderated forums. It's an old troll trick.* I wont make mine general though, you have to be an Islamaphobe to not see the injustices of Israel.



*Did you see that, general statement, not directed at you!

[devil21]

See the link in my sig for a well thought out argument on this topic. No anti-semitism or hate, just logic.

[androidappme]

Why does Israel get to make the rules and demands?
It's because we give them $3B a year in awesome death machines.
I can't wait until America doesn't have any more cookies to give them.

You are not knowledgeable. You need to read more.

The Quartet are the United Nations, the United States, the European Union, and Russia.

Why does Israel have demands?

Because the war is not about a Palestinian statehood or anything (only a small percentage of people are nationalist rest are Islamist) This war is a religious war. The muslims support the Palestinians because its their religious duty. I live in the United Arab Emirates and many Islamic organizations here send money to Hamas because of 'Jerusalem', they consider it as the Holy Site and consider the Jews as apes and pigs and they believe that the Jews must be killed to usher in their Islamic Messiah.

When Ehud Olmert was Prime Minister, he said that Israel will pull out of every Palestinian land with swaps on both sides. with Jerusalem under the U.N, but Abbas said No because he wanted Jerusalem in Islamic hands.

[androidappme]

In the original 1947 UN partition plan, The UN gave about 55% of the land to about 31% of the people (the Jews), and this 31% only actually owned 6% of the land which was purchased legitimately. This is what caused the first war, because the Arabs rejected the plan.

And rightfully so. Too bad they lost.

In 2011, Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas stated that the Arab rejection of the partition plan was a mistake he hoped to rectify.