Israel has done nothing wrong here. They're simply defending their own country after an attack by Hamas.
Israel has done nothing wrong here. They're simply defending their own country after an attack by Hamas.
Originally Posted by RonPaulMall
Killing children isn't wrong?
Israels existence violates Palestinian rights.
They didn't start the conflict. They fired back after Hamas launched rockets into Israel. Was Israel just supposed to sit back and take it and do nothing?
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Killing children is wrong, I don't care who does it or if it is intentional or not it is wrong. Israel is not innocent at all in fact quite the opposite, it is evil.
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A full-blown incursion and bombing runs with innocent casualties doesn't help a whole lot.
The essential problem is how does Israel stop these rocket attacks? Who is actually launching them? Who is in control? Is Hamas directing every single rocket shooting fool out there, or are they doing it on their own? The US was in control of Iraq and Afghanistan, yet people still attacked innocents constantly. Who do you blame? Does the buck stop at Bush or Obama for allowing terrorism to occur under their watch? Now apply that to Gaza. Who do you blame? Is there one person that could be assassinated to stop the rockets? Probably not. Is there a certain number of people who could be killed to stop it? Probably not. That leads to the logical conclusion that something else needs to be tried.
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You're not wrong. You just left out the targets that violate international laws and those that directly impact and target civilians. I added and bolded them above.
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Why most RPF members are against the US involvement with Israel explained by Mini-Me:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=218093
No anti-semitism, just logic.
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Last edited by Traditional Conservative; 11-16-2012 at 10:14 PM.
You can be a rational non-anti-semite and not support Israel's government.
I don't make anyone look bad, Israel's gov't actions make them look bad, because they are bad.
I do not support our current government, nor do I support Israel's, which is ridiculously intertwined with our own. And another thing for you who yell "anti-semite!" at those of us who try desperately to end this god damned conflict with ethical solutions--fuck you. I was on the side of the Jews when they were oppressed by the Germans, and I'm on the side of the Palestinians when they are oppressed by the Israelis.
It's called philosophical consistency. And your name calling is a bunch of bullshit. I am not anti-anyone, except jackasses who try to force their bullshit down other people's throats, people who kill, people who steal, people who terrorize, people who torture. If it makes me an anti-semite to be opposed to that, then I'll take the title with honors.
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