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Thread: Weld: We’d look to appoint Supreme Court justices like Stephen Breyer and Merrick Garland

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    Weld: We’d look to appoint Supreme Court justices like Stephen Breyer and Merrick Garland

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/2...rrick-garland/

    Via Reason, the key bit comes at exactly 10:00 of the clip below. Things start out okay, with Johnson insisting that he’d appoint originalists to the Court. Then Weld starts talking. My facial expression right now:

    Breyer and Garland, writes Ilya Shapiro, are “the jurists most deferential to the government on everything, whether environmental regulation or civil liberties.” This comes 24 hours after Johnson himself reiterated in a separate interview that no, he doesn’t believe business owners have a right of religious conscience that should exempt them from laws requiring them to cater to gay weddings. Question: Is Hillary Clinton the only candidate running this year who’s actually a member of her own party?

    You can, if you like, read this as a strategic play by Johnson and Weld. They’re trying to peel off anti-Trump conservative ideologues on the one hand and anti-Hillary Berniebros on the other. Johnson’s pandering to the first group by chattering about originalism, Weld’s pandering to the second by talking up Democratic justices. Ultimately that strategy breaks down, though, as each group of voters comes to suspect that the ticket would end up in the pocket of the other. But I don’t think that’s the actual strategy that’s at work here. I think it’s much simpler: Be nice. The two major-party nominees are widely seen as dirtbags; the more reasonable Johnson and Weld seem by comparison, the more likely they are to draw protest votes. Nothing says “reasonable” to independents and low-information voters quite like a moderate Republican turned libertarian endorsing Democratic justices. The same logic was behind Johnson and Weld failing to say a critical word about Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton when prompted to do so on CNN a few weeks ago. Be nice; be nonpartisan; let disgust with Trump and Clinton do the rest, carrying you to 15 percent of the vote and a slot in the debates this fall. There’s a nonzero chance that it’ll work. But what if it does? What lesson should Johnson and the Libertarian Party draw if the ticket manages to do respectably against two historically unpopular nominees by not running as libertarians?

    If you’re #NeverTrump, your dilemma here is this: Do Johnson’s flirtations with the left make it impossible to vote for him, even though everyone understands that he’s never going to be in a position to act on those flirtations? If you’re thinking of casting a vote for a guy who can’t win, it doesn’t matter what his positions are, really. All that matters is whether he’s gone too far in muddling the message you want to send with that vote. Johnson is, in theory, the candidate of smaller government; in practice, if he’s willing to entertain the idea of appointing another Breyer to the Court, then maybe he isn’t. Is ideological purity unimportant in a protest vote or is it very important since, after all, you’re choosing to forfeit what tiny influence you have over the outcome of the election in order to cast that vote? I’m leaning towards writing in Harambe the dead gorilla for president at this point but it’s something to think about.
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/2...rrick-garland/



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    They are talking themselves right into a hole. Totally clueless. Both of them.
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    They're trying to just seem centrist and reasonable. Hoping that the country still wants that. This isn't about us and it isn't about liberty.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Where have these guys been?
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    They're just trying to give the country another possible choice than the two major parties. It's a lukewarm choice, but they're making the calculation that it can work against the current backdrop of the gop and Dems.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    They're just trying to give the country another possible choice than the two major parties. It's a lukewarm choice, but they're making the calculation that it can work against the current backdrop of the gop and Dems.
    What kind of choice would more of the same be? These guys are worse than Obama. They are just clueless panderers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    What kind of choice would more of the same be?
    Corruption, fraud, or milquetoast. Take your pick.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    They are not another choice. They are the same choice, only worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    They are not another choice. They are the same choice, only worse.
    Let's not get carried away, now.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    They're trying to just seem centrist and reasonable. Hoping that the country still wants that. This isn't about us and it isn't about liberty.
    The ironic thing is that Breyer is actually the most anti libertarian member of the Supreme Court. We at least agree with Ginsburg, Kagan, and Sotomayor on some civil liberties issues. But Breyer usually votes with the conservatives on civil liberties issues. So we agree with him on nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    The ironic thing is that Breyer is actually the most anti libertarian member of the Supreme Court. We at least agree with Ginsburg, Kagan, and Sotomayor on some civil liberties issues. But Breyer usually votes with the conservatives on civil liberties issues. So we agree with him on nothing.
    I agree with Weld on nothing that I know of, so it makes sense.
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    This is likely the only thing I really worry about. The Supreme Court. Still, though, they're functioning administratively anyway. You know? I mean, the've totally been operating outside of the parameters of our system of checks and balances for some time. And congress isn't doing smack crap anything about it.

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    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    More like a triple dog dare.

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