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    Quote Originally Posted by awake View Post
    Right to exist? Tell that to the generations of dead innocent men , women and children...Peace will happen when the US stops funding and blindly backing Israel. Strict non intervention.
    Which one's the jews killed by palestnians orthe palestinians killed by jews?

    THe US has to stop funding foreign government and military's, I agree there. However, that will not solve the problem...
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    Off twitter https://twitter.com/RuwaydaMustafah/...51340074086401
    Interesting to note @Reuters usage of terminology in their Gaza coverage. Israelis 'Killed' but Palestinian children 'died'. Objective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsetsefly View Post
    Which one's the jews killed by palestnians orthe palestinians killed by jews?

    THe US has to stop funding foreign government and military's, I agree there. However, that will not solve the problem...
    True, that area has been in conflict for thousands of years. I believe it's because of it's location. For the longest time, the only way to go around the Mediterranean sea was to cross through that area. The only other way was to get on a boat and cross that way. I doubt the U.S. being not involved would change anything except the culpability of the taxpayers in the bloodshed that is happening over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsetsefly View Post
    No one is disputing that.

    I asked what do you think the solution is?
    and if you think Israel has the right to exist?
    Solution? You mean like a magic wand that can be waved upon mankind and we all starting singing Kum Ba Ya? Sorry, I do not have such a solution. I believe in individual rights and responsibilities. It's a common belief system here. I find that keeping my own moral compass pointed in the right direction is quite a sizable undertaking. Add the responsibility to teach my children self-control, and well, I'm booked.

    I don't believe in the "rights" of any government. As I stated previously, I believe all individuals have the right to life. Governments are not individuals. Governments derive just power from the consent of the governed. I am not a citizen of Israel. It's not my call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_hine View Post
    This video is being scrubbed from the internet. Watch it before it no longer exists.


    I watched a mirror of this earlier today which had close to 10,000 views. I was planning on posting it. Youtube removed it. Here is the link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=CJ8yeZcgV3E
    regardless, such disproportionate violence against civilians is repulsive. I would share this on facebook, but I don't have the stomach to. Instead I use articles and videos that aren't graphic, but every once in a while people need to see for themselves the realities of war and american ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockEnds View Post
    Solution? You mean like a magic wand that can be waved upon mankind and we all starting singing Kum Ba Ya? Sorry, I do not have such a solution. I believe in individual rights and responsibilities. It's a common belief system here. I find that keeping my own moral compass pointed in the right direction is quite a sizable undertaking. Add the responsibility to teach my children self-control, and well, I'm booked.

    I don't believe in the "rights" of any government. As I stated previously, I believe all individuals have the right to life. Governments are not individuals. Governments derive just power from the consent of the governed. I am not a citizen of Israel. It's not my call.
    Agree. So what government do you think most closely aligns with individual rights? Israel with freer economic policies, more tolerance of alternative lifestyles and religions or the islamofascist hamas government? Just look at how they treat people of other religions and murder political opponents...
    It would be great if Hamas would adopt a semblence of individual rights based platform or any middle east government, that will never happen in our lifetimes.

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    http://reuters.livestation.com/demo

    Just watched the sunrise in Gaza

    Pretty uneventful but its a live feed from Israel-Gaza border... maybe we'll get a show? opcorn:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsetsefly View Post
    Agree. So what government do you think most closely aligns with individual rights? Israel with freer economic policies, more tolerance of alternative lifestyles and religions or the islamofascist hamas government? Just look at how they treat people of other religions and murder political opponents...
    It would be great if Hamas would adopt a semblence of individual rights based platform or any middle east government, that will never happen in our lifetimes.
    Is that a real question?

    I very much dislike your taste in videos. It was already posted on another thread earlier this week. For a woman who prides herself on her opposition to collectivism, she certainly is collectivist.

    I like this video much better.




    And I thought we had this civilized vs savage conversation earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsetsefly View Post
    Agree. So what government do you think most closely aligns with individual rights? Israel with freer economic policies, more tolerance of alternative lifestyles and religions or the islamofascist hamas government? Just look at how they treat people of other religions and murder political opponents...
    It would be great if Hamas would adopt a semblence of individual rights based platform or any middle east government, that will never happen in our lifetimes.

    Ahahahahhahahahhaah, WHAT?!?!?

    Israel is an apartheid state. As I type this Israel is oppressing people for their culture and religion. What because they let gays dance around and parade they're more tolerable? They have children in their prisons!

    Atrocious hypocrisy. Honestly, look at the history of Palestine... Jews have it, they hate on Muslims and Christians, Christians had it, they killed Jews and Muslims, Muslims had it, they protected the rights of both religions, and we're called Islamofascists?? lmao.
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    Found this beauty on facebook from a tea party page that was liked by one of my zionist israel-firster "friends". Where to start with these morons? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...r&notif_t=like (link to the site's photo)





    sigh...
    Last edited by Shane Harris; 11-21-2012 at 01:56 PM.

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