Gaza under attack by Israel

[RockEnds]

You know, when I was in Amman with my husband and his family, I somehow missed all this, tsetsefly. Maybe if I could have actually gone into Israel I would have developed a different opinion? I couldn't. They wouldn't let my husband in. His parents left in '48, and they couldn't go back even to see the place. I had to go the mountaintop, Nebo, to see what could be seen from there. Kinda felt like Moses. Couldn't cross the Jordan. I really enjoyed my time in Jordan, though. I'm not really sure what horrible conditions you think I should have experienced there.

[Demigod]

Plenty of nations that have been at war for years finally reached peace terms, just look at all of Europe.
As long as militant Hamas is in charge of Gaza that will never happen.

There have been longer times of peace in Europe than the current 11 years old peace.Also the peace will last as long as the social programs last and as Europe is going more broke every year soon enough we will see the old ways coming back.

Even today there are a dozen MAJOR separatist movements and almost every country has a region that wants to secede and most have 2 or more.
Some countries are over ran with immigrants that are treated as second class citizens and are a land mine waiting to explode.
Not to even mention all the old region disputes and blood debt that are just waiting to be reopened

Europe is a time bomb.This is why every European laughed when the EU got the Peace Prize because EU has only made everything worse.

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[amy31416]

tsetsefly, it would behoove you to read a few articles:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...end-themselves

http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/11/i...ho-started-it/

I'd provide more links, but my internet connection is particularly slow today. Read the articles, you really need to.

[RockEnds]

I did have a conversation with some young Palestinian men about the issue of Israel while I was in the ME. At the end of the conversation the pulled out a...

guitar...

and we all sang this song together:

[angelatc]

Sounds like the rhetoric before Auschwitz.


http://www.twitlonger.com/show/k2siil

"And when you get back, don't be surprised to see a nice Jewish family now lives in your home. Too bad for you!"

[angelatc]

As much Slavs,Gypsies and other minorities from Eastern Europe were slaughtered in the camps but there is hardly a word written for them ever.

When I was in Germany, my friend's child got all big-eyed when she saw a black person. My friend said there weren't many blacks in Germany, since the Nazi's. I had no idea! So I started reading, and found all the groups you listed, plus others (Jehovah's Witnesses come to mind) were also victims of the holocaust.

I pointed that out to an evangelical once, ad was accused of lying. Because I am anti-semitic.

It was unreal - like the fact that the Jews weren't the only persecuted group was somehow offensive to the Jews.

I still don't get it.

[presence]

When I was in Germany, my friend's child got all big-eyed when she saw a black person.

Reminds me of when my little brother was first exposed to a dark skinned person. Age 3 he came out of the hotel swimming pool screaming to mom, veins sticking out of neck, "they're gonna make the pool all dirty". Self? Exit stage left. Definitely "Top 10 Most Embarrassing Moments" material.

/facepalm

[tsetsefly]

You know, when I was in Amman with my husband and his family, I somehow missed all this, tsetsefly. Maybe if I could have actually gone into Israel I would have developed a different opinion? I couldn't. They wouldn't let my husband in. His parents left in '48, and they couldn't go back even to see the place. I had to go the mountaintop, Nebo, to see what could be seen from there. Kinda felt like Moses. Couldn't cross the Jordan. I really enjoyed my time in Jordan, though. I'm not really sure what horrible conditions you think I should have experienced there.

I don't what the point of this is, I think they should be let in.

Israelis can't enter arab countries, just to play in Dubai 3 Israeli tennis players where finally allowed to play after the ATP threatened to move the tournament out of there if they were discriminated.
In fact I don't think you can enter neighboring countries after you have visited Israel.

[tsetsefly]

There have been longer times of peace in Europe than the current 11 years old peace.Also the peace will last as long as the social programs last and as Europe is going more broke every year soon enough we will see the old ways coming back.

Even today there are a dozen MAJOR separatist movements and almost every country has a region that wants to secede and most have 2 or more.
Some countries are over ran with immigrants that are treated as second class citizens and are a land mine waiting to explode.
Not to even mention all the old region disputes and blood debt that are just waiting to be reopened

Europe is a time bomb.This is why every European laughed when the EU got the Peace Prize because EU has only made everything worse.

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I wasn't even refering to this century or the last one...

As for the immigrants, you are right and unfortunately a lot of those immigrants are muslim immigrants who can't grasp the concept of separation of church and state...

[Demigod]

I wasn't even refering to this century or the last one...

As for the immigrants, you are right and unfortunately a lot of those immigrants are muslim immigrants who can't grasp the concept of separation of church and state...

оф боже со кој сум нашол да си трошам време.